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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Talon378" data-source="post: 4660775" data-attributes="member: 74497">Only if you have: a)superior tactics, b)two other characters spending their abilities, and c)a character lucky enough to get the rolls. That is an awful lot of if's that are necessary to make that power really effective. As a DM, if I can get you to use three characters and three powers in one round in order for your Fighter to get 4W+ 4bonuses, then I'm a happy guy. As far as the assertion that the RoB is going to do more than the Ranger's ability, how can you possibly say that? Remembering that the Ranger is just as likely to be getting the static bonus that the fighter is with his weapon, there is no way that 4W is going to outpace 6W unless there is a dramatic difference in the damage dice to begin with. The Ranger with his power has the potential to do 6W damage plus his bonuses twice, plus Hunter's Quarry at range. Remember, the Ranger has just as much of a chance of getting a crit on those rolls as the Fighter on his. I'm sorry guys, there is no way you'll ever equate 4W damage with what is intended to be a light weapon, i.e. the best damage weapon RoB works with only does 2d6 damage on a hit, or 8d6 in an optimum situation where you hit with all four attacks. Meanwhile, the Ranger with a Greatbow is doing 6d12 points of damage at a range of over 20 squares so that he never even has to be hit back if he's smart. If you all are looking for some broken powers, my friends, there they are. The Ranger class is full of them. 9th level Ranger using Attacks on the Run with Greatbow+2 and Dex of 18=6d12+12+1d6 Quarry damage, or a maximum total of 90 damage. 9th level Fighter using Rain of Blows with Heavy Flail+2 and Str of 18=8d6+24, or a maximum total of 72. Remember, this is Maximum damage and assuming that both characters hit with all available attacks. How is Rain of Blows better? Because it is an encounter? That is offset by the fact that the Ranger can do this from 25 squares away taking no penalty for the attack roll, and never even see any retaliation.</blockquote>

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