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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 1863006" data-attributes="member: 23094"><p>So, in other words, he's rolled on average 9.5 for each level-up. There's a small chance that he's rolled a 1 somewhere along the line, since he must come up with 38 hp on 4 rolls, or 35 hp on 3 rolls (assuming a single roll of a 1). Note that in no case could he have rolled multiple 1s, since then he'd need 32 hp on 2 rolls.</p><p></p><p>Summary:</p><p></p><p>CL | New HP | Total HP | 50 less HP</p><p></p><p>1 | 12 | 12 | 38</p><p>2 | 3 | 15 | 35</p><p>3 | 3 | 18 | 32</p><p>4 | 12 | 30 | 20</p><p>5 | 12 | 42 | <strong>8</strong></p><p></p><p>So, we'll assume he has max 1st-level HP, and average after that:</p><p></p><p>CL | New HP | Total HP | 50 Less HP</p><p></p><p>1 | 12 | 12 | 38</p><p>2 | 10 | 22 | 28</p><p>3 | 9 | 31 | 19</p><p>4 | 10 | 41 | 9</p><p>5 | 9 | 50 | 0</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. In fact, what happens is he changes to:</p><p></p><p>CL | New HP | Total HP</p><p></p><p>1 | 10 | 10</p><p>2 | 8 | 18</p><p>3 | 7 | 25</p><p>4 | 8 | 33</p><p>5 | 7 | 40</p><p></p><p>Note that, in this case, he loses 10 current and 10 max HP, because the reduction in Con bonus does not cause any individual HD roll to hit the 1 point minimum.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>He loses, again, 10 current and 10 max HP, dropping him to 0 / 40. He's staggered.</p><p></p><p>If he was already staggered (at 0 / 50) when the Con damage was dealt, he'd drop dead immediately.</p><p></p><p>EDIT:</p><p></p><p>OK, for fun, we'll assume that the Fighter 5 with 50 HPs had been unlucky once while rolling his HP, but very lucky the rest of the time. His hit point progression now looks like:</p><p></p><p>CL | New HP | Total HP | 50 less HP</p><p></p><p>1 | 12 | 12 | 38</p><p>2 | 3 | 15 | 35</p><p>3 | 12 | 27 | 23</p><p>4 | 12 | 39 | 11</p><p>5 | 11 | 50 | 0</p><p></p><p>Now, instead of being hit with a 4-point Con damage attack (which is just enough to set his Con bonus to 0), he's instead hit with a 6-point Con damage attack. What happens? The knee-jerk reaction is that he's now at 50 - (3 * 5) = 35 Max and Current HPs (and, generally, this formulation will work).</p><p></p><p>However, that 3 at 2nd-level causes a bit of a problem, since it cannot be reduced to less than 1. So, what really happens is his HP progression changes to:</p><p></p><p>CL | New HP | Total HP </p><p></p><p>1 | 9 | 9</p><p>2 | 1 | 10</p><p>3 | 9 | 19</p><p>4 | 9 | 28</p><p>5 | 8 | 36</p><p></p><p>Similarly, another 2 points of Con damage will only reduce his max and current HP by 4, since his 2nd-level HP have bottomed out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 1863006, member: 23094"] So, in other words, he's rolled on average 9.5 for each level-up. There's a small chance that he's rolled a 1 somewhere along the line, since he must come up with 38 hp on 4 rolls, or 35 hp on 3 rolls (assuming a single roll of a 1). Note that in no case could he have rolled multiple 1s, since then he'd need 32 hp on 2 rolls. Summary: CL | New HP | Total HP | 50 less HP 1 | 12 | 12 | 38 2 | 3 | 15 | 35 3 | 3 | 18 | 32 4 | 12 | 30 | 20 5 | 12 | 42 | [b]8[/b] So, we'll assume he has max 1st-level HP, and average after that: CL | New HP | Total HP | 50 Less HP 1 | 12 | 12 | 38 2 | 10 | 22 | 28 3 | 9 | 31 | 19 4 | 10 | 41 | 9 5 | 9 | 50 | 0 Correct. In fact, what happens is he changes to: CL | New HP | Total HP 1 | 10 | 10 2 | 8 | 18 3 | 7 | 25 4 | 8 | 33 5 | 7 | 40 Note that, in this case, he loses 10 current and 10 max HP, because the reduction in Con bonus does not cause any individual HD roll to hit the 1 point minimum. He loses, again, 10 current and 10 max HP, dropping him to 0 / 40. He's staggered. If he was already staggered (at 0 / 50) when the Con damage was dealt, he'd drop dead immediately. EDIT: OK, for fun, we'll assume that the Fighter 5 with 50 HPs had been unlucky once while rolling his HP, but very lucky the rest of the time. His hit point progression now looks like: CL | New HP | Total HP | 50 less HP 1 | 12 | 12 | 38 2 | 3 | 15 | 35 3 | 12 | 27 | 23 4 | 12 | 39 | 11 5 | 11 | 50 | 0 Now, instead of being hit with a 4-point Con damage attack (which is just enough to set his Con bonus to 0), he's instead hit with a 6-point Con damage attack. What happens? The knee-jerk reaction is that he's now at 50 - (3 * 5) = 35 Max and Current HPs (and, generally, this formulation will work). However, that 3 at 2nd-level causes a bit of a problem, since it cannot be reduced to less than 1. So, what really happens is his HP progression changes to: CL | New HP | Total HP 1 | 9 | 9 2 | 1 | 10 3 | 9 | 19 4 | 9 | 28 5 | 8 | 36 Similarly, another 2 points of Con damage will only reduce his max and current HP by 4, since his 2nd-level HP have bottomed out. [/QUOTE]
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