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Can Restoration fix a botched Contact Other Plane?
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<blockquote data-quote="Praeden" data-source="post: 1910484" data-attributes="member: 26908"><p>I've been wondering this too, and I have to say it's a tough call. I think it probably wouldn't work, for the following reason:</p><p></p><p>The closest example of a spell that just lowers ability scores to a particular value is Feeblemind. This can only be countered by the following spells: Heal, Limited Wish, Wish, or Miracle. I've read the decription of Heal, and it is specifically cited as a spell that counteracts Feeblemind, but there doesn't seem to be any indication that it would help with Contact Other Plane.</p><p></p><p>Greater Restoration, on the other hand, does give the impression that it can take care of any kind of ability reduction, but we now know that it can't actually help with Feeblemind, and suddenly it's not that obvious that it can fix Contact Other Plane syndrome either. As I say, the way that Feeblemind and Contact Other Plane handles the ability reduction is pretty similar.</p><p></p><p>What does that leave? Well, I'm going to assume that Wish and Miracle work on pretty much anything. Limited Wish - well that's unclear too. You could call it either way. But if the very best 6th and 7th level clerical restoration spells can't help, then maybe Limited Wish won't cut it either. On the other hand, Limited Wish can counter things like Insanity and Geas/Quest (the key difference being that with Contact Other Plane, the problem is self-inflicted in a way).</p><p></p><p>It would help enormously if, when the Contact Other Planes spell went wrong, the caster was said to be under a specific effect. Even being feebleminded is a recognised effect. Simply setting Intelligence and Charisma to 8 places the spell somewhat outside the standard framework of DnD spell effects.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Praeden, post: 1910484, member: 26908"] I've been wondering this too, and I have to say it's a tough call. I think it probably wouldn't work, for the following reason: The closest example of a spell that just lowers ability scores to a particular value is Feeblemind. This can only be countered by the following spells: Heal, Limited Wish, Wish, or Miracle. I've read the decription of Heal, and it is specifically cited as a spell that counteracts Feeblemind, but there doesn't seem to be any indication that it would help with Contact Other Plane. Greater Restoration, on the other hand, does give the impression that it can take care of any kind of ability reduction, but we now know that it can't actually help with Feeblemind, and suddenly it's not that obvious that it can fix Contact Other Plane syndrome either. As I say, the way that Feeblemind and Contact Other Plane handles the ability reduction is pretty similar. What does that leave? Well, I'm going to assume that Wish and Miracle work on pretty much anything. Limited Wish - well that's unclear too. You could call it either way. But if the very best 6th and 7th level clerical restoration spells can't help, then maybe Limited Wish won't cut it either. On the other hand, Limited Wish can counter things like Insanity and Geas/Quest (the key difference being that with Contact Other Plane, the problem is self-inflicted in a way). It would help enormously if, when the Contact Other Planes spell went wrong, the caster was said to be under a specific effect. Even being feebleminded is a recognised effect. Simply setting Intelligence and Charisma to 8 places the spell somewhat outside the standard framework of DnD spell effects. [/QUOTE]
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