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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Praeden" data-source="post: 1914003" data-attributes="member: 26908">That was my immediate reaction as well; it did seem silly, in a recursive kind of way...  But in fact we can pretty much forget about the spell itself.  Here's my take:Thing that we are trying to avoid: Int/Cha loss due to mental traumaCause of distraction (reason we can't take 10): Being in the presence of godly minds is stressfulNow, the two things do still seems related, but both are merely by-products of the spell.  We are essentially victims of a mental attack here.  The fact that we initiated the contact is not the issue (again, think about what happens if you cast Detect Thoughts on an Allip).It seems to me that you could conceivably have a psionic monster or somesuch who drained Int, and required you to make an Int ability check to avoid it (I know saving throws are normally used here, but this is a hypothetical example).  When attacked by such a monster, you clearly could not take 10 to help you avoid the Int drain, and it would indeed be the distraction/threat of the mental attack itself which prevented such action.  My feeling is that Contact Other Plane puts you in a similar situation.  Rereading the spell description, it's even possible that this mental trauma is a direct action of the resentful deity (this is supported by the fact that the problem occurs as soon as you ask your first question).  But in any case, it seems reasonable to me that any telepathic contact which could result in such drastic loss of mental faculties must be intrinsically stressful.  So I don't think this can be considered a Take 10 situation.Actually, this sounds so funny I almost regret what I've written!</blockquote>

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