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<blockquote data-quote="Supergyro" data-source="post: 7583343" data-attributes="member: 87336">Evidently you didn't read my original post.. It's sad I have to repeat it...&quot;--&quot; could mean &quot;does no damage and can not be given damage by feats&quot; or it could mean &quot;does no damage and can be given damage by feats&quot;.&nbsp; You seem to argue the latter when it could very well be the former, the book does not say.&nbsp; It's probably not mean the latter since to say the latter they could have said '0', but again, hard to say, since it's not defined.I don't see how a math book would resolve this.&nbsp; To use mathematical language. If for all X,&nbsp; F(X)=0.. it could be F(X)+10 or it could be F(X+10).&nbsp; The first is '10', but the second is '0'. Now unless you can point to the rulebook as to where, you're just enforcing a house rule.&nbsp; There is nothing in a math book that resolves this conundrum since, the rules use a symbol &quot;--&quot; and do not define the order of operations for that symbol.So either point to the rulebook page or even a page of a mathbook page that defines &quot;--&quot; to give the order of operations involved... without either, as I said, you're just enforcing a house rule and pretending it has empirical basis.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Supergyro, post: 7583343, member: 87336"] Evidently you didn't read my original post.. It's sad I have to repeat it... "--" could mean "does no damage and can not be given damage by feats" or it could mean "does no damage and can be given damage by feats". You seem to argue the latter when it could very well be the former, the book does not say. It's probably not mean the latter since to say the latter they could have said '0', but again, hard to say, since it's not defined. I don't see how a math book would resolve this. To use mathematical language. If for all X, F(X)=0.. it could be F(X)+10 or it could be F(X+10). The first is '10', but the second is '0'. Now unless you can point to the rulebook as to where, you're just enforcing a house rule. There is nothing in a math book that resolves this conundrum since, the rules use a symbol "--" and do not define the order of operations for that symbol. So either point to the rulebook page or even a page of a mathbook page that defines "--" to give the order of operations involved... without either, as I said, you're just enforcing a house rule and pretending it has empirical basis. [/QUOTE]

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