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<blockquote data-quote="azmodean" data-source="post: 1979715" data-attributes="member: 26590">What BiggusGeekus is talking about is called a Trace Italienne, which became popular when the standing walls of 'classical' castles were discovered to be very vunerable to cannon fire.&nbsp; The Trace Italienne relies on huge earthen embankments to defend against cannon fire and overlapping fields of fire useable by the defenders to keep foot troops and calvary away.&nbsp; The typical means used to attack them was to use engineers to build trenches in a zig-zag manner, approaching closer and closer to the fortification while shielding the people in the trenches from gunfire and cannonfire.&nbsp; Once close enough, they would bring foward their own cannon through the trenches, which would be effective at close range.Man, and I thought I wasn't paying attention in that &quot;history of modern warfare&quot; class.I'm definitely in the &quot;magic equals out&quot; camp, I just didn't want to bias the initial post in my direction.&nbsp; Not to say that magic, used in an overpowering or clever way, wouldn't tip the balance.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="azmodean, post: 1979715, member: 26590"] What BiggusGeekus is talking about is called a Trace Italienne, which became popular when the standing walls of 'classical' castles were discovered to be very vunerable to cannon fire. The Trace Italienne relies on huge earthen embankments to defend against cannon fire and overlapping fields of fire useable by the defenders to keep foot troops and calvary away. The typical means used to attack them was to use engineers to build trenches in a zig-zag manner, approaching closer and closer to the fortification while shielding the people in the trenches from gunfire and cannonfire. Once close enough, they would bring foward their own cannon through the trenches, which would be effective at close range. Man, and I thought I wasn't paying attention in that "history of modern warfare" class. I'm definitely in the "magic equals out" camp, I just didn't want to bias the initial post in my direction. Not to say that magic, used in an overpowering or clever way, wouldn't tip the balance. [/QUOTE]

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