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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Spinachcat" data-source="post: 6001104" data-attributes="member: 37588">It's the same thing at the playtest tables. If you like 3e, then 5e is too much 4e. If you like 4e, then 5e is too much 3e. At most tables, I get 5e = 1e + 4e or 5e = 2e + 3e as the player response of why they feel 5e either is "meh" or "suxxors"  Of course, if WotC really isn't going to put out the game until GenCon 2014, then we are very early into the playtest process and the final game may not look like anything we are currently playing.</blockquote>