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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Joe Liker" data-source="post: 6333117" data-attributes="member: 6777505">It might help a 4e player to think of them as minor actions at first, but the difference is more than mental: You cannot downgrade your normal action into a bonus action, and there is a reason for this -- it keeps the game running. It keeps people from trying to do all kinds of crazy action-economy tricks.It's all part of streamlining. Sometimes you make a rule that seems a little restrictive, but eventually people realize that it only rules out exploits and corner cases, and that the game overall is better with the streamlined version of the rule. I think that's definitely the case here. You get one action. You can use one bonus action if you have it. Done. Next player.(This is why as a DM, I would be very loath to allow double bonus actions for any reason.)In the Basic Rules, at least, I don't see any bonus actions that actually cause the game to suffer because they can't be executed as a downgraded normal action. Off-hand weapon? Already possible as an action. Rogue extra action? Already possible as an action. You might want to cast two healing words, but the more important restriction in that case comes from the spellcasting rules (no more than one non-cantrip spell per turn), not the bonus action rules.So anyway, because they are not the same as minor actions, I think it's very wise that they are not presented as such. Obviously there's some confusion -- otherwise people wouldn't be here asking these questions -- but I think that might be better addressed by having some sort of "FAQ for 4e players" or something.</blockquote>

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