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<blockquote data-quote="Yair" data-source="post: 2808006" data-attributes="member: 10913"><p>I think generally it would be considered acceptable to remove proper names and similar setting-specific elements, but not general names and titles. Consider how useless the SRD would be if "Fireball" and "Gnoll" and "Goblin" and so on would all be released without their names. No one could refer to them as such, just imagine a race book on Dwarves that referred to them as "Those Stout Little People". It's one thing saying the "Illithid" name is PI, it is another to say that "Fireball" is.</p><p></p><p>Let me add my voice to the "I care" chorus.</p><p>While it is true that publishers rarely use other's content, they sometimes do and that's great. Better than nothing. If the crippled-OGC barriers were lower, I suspect we would have seen a bit more of that too.</p><p>I just recently purchased a product which I knew contained content from another company, partly because I thought the rules were good and I was looking forward to seeing them in a non-crippled form (the original company is infamous for crippled OGC). It turned out the new version was even more crippled, but that's another story.</p><p>That is not why I really care about crippled OGC, however.</p><p></p><p>I care about crippled OGC for two primary reasons: </p><p>1) I think it's <em>not nice</em> to cripple OGC. I think it's spitting into the well you're drinking from, I think it's abusing what was given to you freely, I think it twists and brakes the OGL for selfish greed, I think it is an insult to the OGC you are building on and those who released it. I think it's morally abhorrant.</p><p>2) I actually want to publish my gaming stuff legally - not commercially, just legally. I can't, when that stuff is predicated on closed content; I can when it based on open content. Anything that isn't open is therefore substantially less useful to me. For example, in my latest OGC-based campaign I could post extensive treaments of the religion, races, and similar background for my players to read before the game, or refer to between sessions. This was <em>useful</em>.</p><p>I think this second reason is fairly rare, but there it is.</p><p></p><p>For all these reasons, I tend not to purchase products that I know contain crippled OGC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yair, post: 2808006, member: 10913"] I think generally it would be considered acceptable to remove proper names and similar setting-specific elements, but not general names and titles. Consider how useless the SRD would be if "Fireball" and "Gnoll" and "Goblin" and so on would all be released without their names. No one could refer to them as such, just imagine a race book on Dwarves that referred to them as "Those Stout Little People". It's one thing saying the "Illithid" name is PI, it is another to say that "Fireball" is. Let me add my voice to the "I care" chorus. While it is true that publishers rarely use other's content, they sometimes do and that's great. Better than nothing. If the crippled-OGC barriers were lower, I suspect we would have seen a bit more of that too. I just recently purchased a product which I knew contained content from another company, partly because I thought the rules were good and I was looking forward to seeing them in a non-crippled form (the original company is infamous for crippled OGC). It turned out the new version was even more crippled, but that's another story. That is not why I really care about crippled OGC, however. I care about crippled OGC for two primary reasons: 1) I think it's [i]not nice[/i] to cripple OGC. I think it's spitting into the well you're drinking from, I think it's abusing what was given to you freely, I think it twists and brakes the OGL for selfish greed, I think it is an insult to the OGC you are building on and those who released it. I think it's morally abhorrant. 2) I actually want to publish my gaming stuff legally - not commercially, just legally. I can't, when that stuff is predicated on closed content; I can when it based on open content. Anything that isn't open is therefore substantially less useful to me. For example, in my latest OGC-based campaign I could post extensive treaments of the religion, races, and similar background for my players to read before the game, or refer to between sessions. This was [i]useful[/i]. I think this second reason is fairly rare, but there it is. For all these reasons, I tend not to purchase products that I know contain crippled OGC. [/QUOTE]
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