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<blockquote data-quote="Yair" data-source="post: 2810679" data-attributes="member: 10913"><p>By not releasing the text as OGC he is preventing me from referring and utilizing it in just the same way as PI names prevent me from using the related mechanics. Say I wanted to release a work based on Action Points, but the term Action Points was PI; I can't interact with it, I can't build on it. Say I wanted to release a work based on Mythic Levels, but the term Mythic Levels <strong>is</strong> PI; I can't interact with it, I can't build on it.</p><p>If rewording isn't a hinderance, you can simply not use the OGL entirely. Instead of referring to Ability Scores, refer to Attributes; instead of referring to Feats, refer to Gifts, and so on. Why didn't Mythic Heroes do that, instead of relying on the precise phrasing and text of prior OGC? Because it would <strong>not</strong> be compatible, which is much of the point of having the OGL in the first place. Building on the precise wording of others while not allowing others to do the same with yours is, pretty much, what crippled OGC means.</p><p></p><p>In my very first post in this thread I noted the economical incentive to use crippled OGC. If I want to use Mythic Levels, I <strong>have</strong> to reach an agreement with Wulf. Bereft of the safe harbor of the OGL, I am forced to revert to copyright law. This does indeed make it much more difficult for some hypothetical wiki to collect the content from the work, and to be clear - I think that is a <strong>positive</strong> effect as I am <strong>not</strong> supportive of an all-inclusive OGC Wiki. But this good effect comes at the price of making responsible use of the work just as impossible*, and IMHO breaking the OGL entirely, which I think is too high a price.</p><p>I understand the motivation to protect your work. I just think you mostly can't if you're using the OGL in good faith, and you should either accept that or not use the OGL.</p><p></p><p>* Impossible under the OGL; you can use the work by using only the ideas regardless of the OGL just like any other work, but that has nothing to do with responsible use of OGC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yair, post: 2810679, member: 10913"] By not releasing the text as OGC he is preventing me from referring and utilizing it in just the same way as PI names prevent me from using the related mechanics. Say I wanted to release a work based on Action Points, but the term Action Points was PI; I can't interact with it, I can't build on it. Say I wanted to release a work based on Mythic Levels, but the term Mythic Levels [b]is[/b] PI; I can't interact with it, I can't build on it. If rewording isn't a hinderance, you can simply not use the OGL entirely. Instead of referring to Ability Scores, refer to Attributes; instead of referring to Feats, refer to Gifts, and so on. Why didn't Mythic Heroes do that, instead of relying on the precise phrasing and text of prior OGC? Because it would [b]not[/b] be compatible, which is much of the point of having the OGL in the first place. Building on the precise wording of others while not allowing others to do the same with yours is, pretty much, what crippled OGC means. In my very first post in this thread I noted the economical incentive to use crippled OGC. If I want to use Mythic Levels, I [b]have[/b] to reach an agreement with Wulf. Bereft of the safe harbor of the OGL, I am forced to revert to copyright law. This does indeed make it much more difficult for some hypothetical wiki to collect the content from the work, and to be clear - I think that is a [b]positive[/b] effect as I am [b]not[/b] supportive of an all-inclusive OGC Wiki. But this good effect comes at the price of making responsible use of the work just as impossible*, and IMHO breaking the OGL entirely, which I think is too high a price. I understand the motivation to protect your work. I just think you mostly can't if you're using the OGL in good faith, and you should either accept that or not use the OGL. * Impossible under the OGL; you can use the work by using only the ideas regardless of the OGL just like any other work, but that has nothing to do with responsible use of OGC. [/QUOTE]
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