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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 2812642" data-attributes="member: 957">I'll start by pointing out that you are quoting the rant which I deleted before your reply was up.I certainly exclude Sigil.Looking at the first post in the other thread, I can only say that I see zero indications of any real effort to offer constructive advice to the matter at hand and that I really feel no need to apologize to the particular people who have engaged in the counter productive and attacking behaviour that I take issue with.The point has been made clear that the motivation for this approach has been to try to offer new ideas into the pool of Open Gaming while also protecting some motivation to keep doing it.  Please point me to where anyone has offered the slightest sympathy to this concern, much less a constructive attempt to offer a better way to satisfy both sides.  It's been nothing but finger-pointing and name calling.  And if those who have done that don't like the fact that I consider them to be much worse "bad guys" when it come to the ultimate goal of nuturing the growth of Open Content, then they will simply need to find a way to get over it. But I won't apologize for saying where I believe the real selfishness lies.In a very recent OGL thread I was openly supporting the concept of the right to freely re-use OGC.   I think I may have pissed off most of the OGL authors here in that thread.   I have not changed my position on that topic in the least.  I have a very low opinion of ANY attempt to use the OGL and the access to the gaming community which it provides and at the same time attempt to prevent others from gaining the same options the new content produced.  I do not consider the motivation or intent of what Wulf did to be an effort to do that.  Have I very recently learned more about the OGL that makes me think this particular effort may be flawed?  Certainly.  But that doesn't make it a devious attempt or in any way a "bad guy" thing to do.  At all.  It is a step in a process and the best possible outcome is to take it as a learning experience and try to find a better solution.  No one,not one person, has stepped up to the plate for that.Certainly not all people who care about OGC are whiners.  I never claimed they are.  But hiding amongst that group is a subgroup that seems to be obsessed not with OGC for the sake of cultivating more OGC, but OGC for the sake of wikis and free stuff.  My comments are aimed at that specific subgroup.  And I offer no apology for it whatsoever.</blockquote>

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