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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 2812796" data-attributes="member: 813">Oh. My apologies but I tend to take a long time responding to posts and don't expect them to be deleted/edited when I do respond. I'd edit my post but since you addressed it I suppose there's no point to that.Advice? Such as? The publishers who create crippled OGC know they do and have been asked politely and impolitely not to do so many times. They have been asked to move toward light in many small ways. They don't move. Constructive advice is only useful if the target thinks they need advice. Those who create crippled OGC are happy with what they've wrought and see anyone naysaying their OGC declarations as so much internet noise. So, go ahead, offer Wulf some constructive advice. See what happens. (Note, I don't mean badger Wulf in particular. Try to explain to any publisher whose OGC declaration seems crippled that you think their declaration is unclear and you'd like to help them achieve OGC nirvana and see how far you get.) They don't want advice. They want us to shut up about it and just use the license quietly.There are 4+ years worth of posts on the ogl-l mailing list about this. Plenty of sympathy and antipathy has been shown by both sides in that forum. Nothing changes.Nor have you. Go ahead. Find a "bad guy" and see if you can achieve middle ground with him or her. I'm serious about this. There comes a point where you have to give up and just accept that some people will create crippled OGC. Accept that all you can do is avoid it.And you shouldn't. But none of those freeloaders are arguing with you in this thread and that's why I responded to your original (now missing) post.</blockquote>

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