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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5416733" data-attributes="member: 4348">Actually, the Christmas tree effect didn't originate in 3e.&nbsp; Most probable it was orginated by an older player (the edition wars were MUCH more fierce when 3e came out between the old schoolers and the 3.X gens) who was stating it in a derogatory term towards 3e players and the game itself.The term Christmas Tree can actually be traced at least as far back as page 92 of the original 1e AD&amp;D DMG, in which they refer to such as accidents and referring to players with little skill and adorned with trinkets much like a Christmas tree.&nbsp; It goes further into derogatory statements in reference to this type of playing, but if you really are that curious, you can refer to it yourself (as I've given the reference).This is a written reference to it that I can find, though there are probably earlier references to Christmas tree type players or campaigns prior to that.In some ways this shows a vast difference of mindsets between the Gygaxian school of thought and the more modern D20 school of thought that came 20 years after.Also, as I stated, I would imagine the original origin in reference to 3.X play was actually from an older player who was not quite as pleased with 3.X during one of the edition wars in relation to AD&amp;D vs. 3.X and the ensuing rages over that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 5416733, member: 4348"] Actually, the Christmas tree effect didn't originate in 3e. Most probable it was orginated by an older player (the edition wars were MUCH more fierce when 3e came out between the old schoolers and the 3.X gens) who was stating it in a derogatory term towards 3e players and the game itself. The term Christmas Tree can actually be traced at least as far back as page 92 of the original 1e AD&D DMG, in which they refer to such as accidents and referring to players with little skill and adorned with trinkets much like a Christmas tree. It goes further into derogatory statements in reference to this type of playing, but if you really are that curious, you can refer to it yourself (as I've given the reference). This is a written reference to it that I can find, though there are probably earlier references to Christmas tree type players or campaigns prior to that. In some ways this shows a vast difference of mindsets between the Gygaxian school of thought and the more modern D20 school of thought that came 20 years after. Also, as I stated, I would imagine the original origin in reference to 3.X play was actually from an older player who was not quite as pleased with 3.X during one of the edition wars in relation to AD&D vs. 3.X and the ensuing rages over that. [/QUOTE]

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