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Can someone explain what "1st ed feel" is?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ourph" data-source="post: 2045819" data-attributes="member: 20239"><p>This is one of the things that frustrate me the most about the edition debate. Many people approached earlier editions with the attitude of "if the book doesn't say you can do it, you can't do it" which is exactly the opposite of the philosophy behind the game as far as I can tell from comments made by Gary, Frank Mentzer, Steve Marsh and others who have talked about their approach to the game and creating the rules. Thieves could <u>Hide in Shadows</u> and <u>Climb Sheer Surfaces</u>. Those are very specific abilities to which other classes didn't have access. Nothing in the rules says that a Fighter can't hide behind a barrel or climb a tree with adequate handholds with some chance of success. Nothing in the rules says how the DM should determine that success, but that doesn't mean it cannot or should not happen. The fact that we had those misperceptions as kids or as inexperienced first-time roleplayers is quite understandable. The fact that so many people still hold onto those misperceptions (not directing this at you maddman) and use them as a basis for criticizing older editions is unfortunate and, in some cases I believe, ingenuous.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In my case no. Though being 12 years old and so hepped up on Dr. Pepper I can't see straight appears to be. That might just be me though. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ourph, post: 2045819, member: 20239"] This is one of the things that frustrate me the most about the edition debate. Many people approached earlier editions with the attitude of "if the book doesn't say you can do it, you can't do it" which is exactly the opposite of the philosophy behind the game as far as I can tell from comments made by Gary, Frank Mentzer, Steve Marsh and others who have talked about their approach to the game and creating the rules. Thieves could [u]Hide in Shadows[/u] and [u]Climb Sheer Surfaces[/u]. Those are very specific abilities to which other classes didn't have access. Nothing in the rules says that a Fighter can't hide behind a barrel or climb a tree with adequate handholds with some chance of success. Nothing in the rules says how the DM should determine that success, but that doesn't mean it cannot or should not happen. The fact that we had those misperceptions as kids or as inexperienced first-time roleplayers is quite understandable. The fact that so many people still hold onto those misperceptions (not directing this at you maddman) and use them as a basis for criticizing older editions is unfortunate and, in some cases I believe, ingenuous. In my case no. Though being 12 years old and so hepped up on Dr. Pepper I can't see straight appears to be. That might just be me though. :D [/QUOTE]
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