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Can the Fighter be Real and Equal to spellcasters?
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<blockquote data-quote="Cryptos" data-source="post: 3985156" data-attributes="member: 58439"><p>Eh... Dumbledore's actual cause of death was falling off of a building. Merlin got waylaid by some fine Lady of the Lake booty. Gandalf took a dive with a Balrog before coming back with an "I can wear white after Labor Day" sensibility.</p><p></p><p>Seems like most of the iconic spellcasters don't have to worry so much about their spellslinging rivals, but other forms of being killed or taken out of commission. Sharp, pointy objects should be just as much of a threat to them as anyone else. It's just that if they see them coming, they whip out some magic to defend themselves. But they can still screw up, or that magic might not be enough.</p><p></p><p>As for fighters, why not? Throughout history, weapons have changed the fate of nations and the world. A single bullet can start a world war, if it hit the right (or is that wrong?) person. Archduke Ferdinand, anyone? Physical violence can be powerful.</p><p></p><p>I really am hoping they forgo the anime-style swordsman, but there are plenty of of examples of over-the-top combatants outside of anime. Look at what someone in a movie like Beowulf or Gladiator or The 300 can do. Or (barring bullet time and super-leaping) a Morpheus or a Trinity.</p><p></p><p>I don't think it has to be all "Super-Pikachu Fire Blast Punch!!!!" or whatever other ridiculous purple emo-coiffed battle maneuver that begins and ends with an overdramatic pose and pouty lips might be out there (hopefully we won't be seeing the purple emotive hairstyle power source or lipless hermaphrodite with ridiculously large eyes combat role), for melee types to compete with wizards.</p><p></p><p>(Can you tell I'm not an anime fan?)</p><p></p><p>Anyway, a single blow of a sword can bring down a kingdom and a single bullet can change the world. Martial types should absolutely be able to stay competitive with magic without getting magic-lite powers. To compete in a fantasy world, they might have to do some very improbable things, as in action-adventure or fantasy movies, but that doesn't mean glowing fists and anorexics with blue hair or a super-rage fiery halfling sunstrike is necessary.</p><p></p><p>Realistic is not fantasy, and in that respect, you're right that some degree of realism must go out the window so that Beowulf can fight Grendel naked, leap across the room and still manage to have a candlestick conveniently placed to cover his privates while he rips the beast's arms off. But it doesn't mean that we have to have magic-like abilities for the fighter to compete.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cryptos, post: 3985156, member: 58439"] Eh... Dumbledore's actual cause of death was falling off of a building. Merlin got waylaid by some fine Lady of the Lake booty. Gandalf took a dive with a Balrog before coming back with an "I can wear white after Labor Day" sensibility. Seems like most of the iconic spellcasters don't have to worry so much about their spellslinging rivals, but other forms of being killed or taken out of commission. Sharp, pointy objects should be just as much of a threat to them as anyone else. It's just that if they see them coming, they whip out some magic to defend themselves. But they can still screw up, or that magic might not be enough. As for fighters, why not? Throughout history, weapons have changed the fate of nations and the world. A single bullet can start a world war, if it hit the right (or is that wrong?) person. Archduke Ferdinand, anyone? Physical violence can be powerful. I really am hoping they forgo the anime-style swordsman, but there are plenty of of examples of over-the-top combatants outside of anime. Look at what someone in a movie like Beowulf or Gladiator or The 300 can do. Or (barring bullet time and super-leaping) a Morpheus or a Trinity. I don't think it has to be all "Super-Pikachu Fire Blast Punch!!!!" or whatever other ridiculous purple emo-coiffed battle maneuver that begins and ends with an overdramatic pose and pouty lips might be out there (hopefully we won't be seeing the purple emotive hairstyle power source or lipless hermaphrodite with ridiculously large eyes combat role), for melee types to compete with wizards. (Can you tell I'm not an anime fan?) Anyway, a single blow of a sword can bring down a kingdom and a single bullet can change the world. Martial types should absolutely be able to stay competitive with magic without getting magic-lite powers. To compete in a fantasy world, they might have to do some very improbable things, as in action-adventure or fantasy movies, but that doesn't mean glowing fists and anorexics with blue hair or a super-rage fiery halfling sunstrike is necessary. Realistic is not fantasy, and in that respect, you're right that some degree of realism must go out the window so that Beowulf can fight Grendel naked, leap across the room and still manage to have a candlestick conveniently placed to cover his privates while he rips the beast's arms off. But it doesn't mean that we have to have magic-like abilities for the fighter to compete. [/QUOTE]
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