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<blockquote data-quote="FourthBear" data-source="post: 3985726" data-attributes="member: 55846">I would agree with of those points.&nbsp; At high levels, the use of offensive spells was effectively nerfed by 1) Spell Resistance 2) High opponent saves and 3) various blanket opponent immunities to many &quot;save or lose&quot; effects.&nbsp; Since melee combat generally wasn't so constrained, it was a more reliable way to do damage (assuming the character had sufficient ability to get to his opponent).&nbsp; Non-combat magic was generally nerfed by hand-wavy use of unspecified magical wards and extraplanar effects to disrupt teleportation and similar magics.Overall, I don't think that really the best solution, since it resulted in &quot;fixing&quot; arcane magic drastically increasing the number of wasted spells on the part of the spellcaster.&nbsp; Save or lose spells became so powerful that they *had* to fail regularly, or the opponents would drop like flies.&nbsp; You got situations like that of the two clerics fighting in Order of the Stick, where they simply toss death and paralysis magic back and forth at each for round after round until one finally rolls a 1.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FourthBear, post: 3985726, member: 55846"] I would agree with of those points. At high levels, the use of offensive spells was effectively nerfed by 1) Spell Resistance 2) High opponent saves and 3) various blanket opponent immunities to many "save or lose" effects. Since melee combat generally wasn't so constrained, it was a more reliable way to do damage (assuming the character had sufficient ability to get to his opponent). Non-combat magic was generally nerfed by hand-wavy use of unspecified magical wards and extraplanar effects to disrupt teleportation and similar magics. Overall, I don't think that really the best solution, since it resulted in "fixing" arcane magic drastically increasing the number of wasted spells on the part of the spellcaster. Save or lose spells became so powerful that they *had* to fail regularly, or the opponents would drop like flies. You got situations like that of the two clerics fighting in Order of the Stick, where they simply toss death and paralysis magic back and forth at each for round after round until one finally rolls a 1. [/QUOTE]

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