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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 3986348" data-attributes="member: 48965">I don't think fighters and wizards will ever be equal, unless fighters go the route of Bo9S and wizards go the route of the 3.5 warlock.&nbsp; I think SW saga ed. is a good example of this.&nbsp; A maximized jedi will own a maxamized soldier in combat.&nbsp; His versatility is just better and he isn't dependant on equipment like the soldier is. &nbsp;I think one thing that's being overlooked is...does the average or casual player (not the average enworld player/DM) really want this?&nbsp; I think having classes such as the Warblade, Swordsage and Crusader are great for those who want to invest the time in dealing with their fidly bits.&nbsp; But what about the player who really just wants a simple character to bash some monsters with, the type who might like the tactical elements of combat...but doesn't want to be bothered with selecting, optimizing and determining a bunch of fidly &quot;powers&quot; every encounter.&nbsp; The Warlock and Sorcerer are both good options for those that want a simpler wizard&nbsp; while the Bo9S offers options for those who want a more detailed and complex fighter character.&nbsp; In my group, I've found that my purely casual players really don't want anything more complex than the Barbarian when they select a fighting class.&nbsp; That's why I feel the classes shouldn't be balanced,&nbsp; options for differing play prefrences...sure.&nbsp; But I get the impression that because certain people don't like the siimplicity of the fighter he should be changed into a warblade...but we already got a warblade for those who want it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 3986348, member: 48965"] I don't think fighters and wizards will ever be equal, unless fighters go the route of Bo9S and wizards go the route of the 3.5 warlock. I think SW saga ed. is a good example of this. A maximized jedi will own a maxamized soldier in combat. His versatility is just better and he isn't dependant on equipment like the soldier is. I think one thing that's being overlooked is...does the average or casual player (not the average enworld player/DM) really want this? I think having classes such as the Warblade, Swordsage and Crusader are great for those who want to invest the time in dealing with their fidly bits. But what about the player who really just wants a simple character to bash some monsters with, the type who might like the tactical elements of combat...but doesn't want to be bothered with selecting, optimizing and determining a bunch of fidly "powers" every encounter. The Warlock and Sorcerer are both good options for those that want a simpler wizard while the Bo9S offers options for those who want a more detailed and complex fighter character. In my group, I've found that my purely casual players really don't want anything more complex than the Barbarian when they select a fighting class. That's why I feel the classes shouldn't be balanced, options for differing play prefrences...sure. But I get the impression that because certain people don't like the siimplicity of the fighter he should be changed into a warblade...but we already got a warblade for those who want it. [/QUOTE]

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