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<blockquote data-quote="mach1.9pants" data-source="post: 3988311" data-attributes="member: 55946">There is a problem with making casting spells safe if you take several rounds to do it: If the mage is in a position where it is too dangerous to take the time he often has not got the option to take a big risk without dying so there is little he can do (ie next to a foe which often means&nbsp;&nbsp; he will be low in HP). But the worse thing is when he can take the time the poor player has 3 (or whatever) rounds of saying &quot;mmm yup still casting that spell&quot; while everyone else has fun trying to keep the hordes off himBut I do like the risky part, if Wiz spells are going to be AWESOME then they should have a chance of failure and a chance of a negative effect. I like the 3E DL optional rule which mimiced the book- make a check or you are exhausted B4 the spell is cast.However I prefer the way 4E appears to be going, everyone can do something per round; it is not terribly realistic but at high levels martial characters are just as awesome as spellcasters and everyone has lots of options. Hopefully thats the way it will work out.My previous campaigns all sopped at 8-10th level cos of 3.5E (and, esp, my) push to realism- the guys who played martial characters got bored beyond that; I introduced Bo9S and we are now playing at 14th with no complaints- no fighters (etc) in the group.....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mach1.9pants, post: 3988311, member: 55946"] There is a problem with making casting spells safe if you take several rounds to do it: If the mage is in a position where it is too dangerous to take the time he often has not got the option to take a big risk without dying so there is little he can do (ie next to a foe which often means he will be low in HP). But the worse thing is when he can take the time the poor player has 3 (or whatever) rounds of saying "mmm yup still casting that spell" while everyone else has fun trying to keep the hordes off him But I do like the risky part, if Wiz spells are going to be AWESOME then they should have a chance of failure and a chance of a negative effect. I like the 3E DL optional rule which mimiced the book- make a check or you are exhausted B4 the spell is cast. However I prefer the way 4E appears to be going, everyone can do something per round; it is not terribly realistic but at high levels martial characters are just as awesome as spellcasters and everyone has lots of options. Hopefully thats the way it will work out. My previous campaigns all sopped at 8-10th level cos of 3.5E (and, esp, my) push to realism- the guys who played martial characters got bored beyond that; I introduced Bo9S and we are now playing at 14th with no complaints- no fighters (etc) in the group..... [/QUOTE]

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