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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 2642950" data-attributes="member: 707">Yes, I can agree with all of this.&nbsp; The fact that the paladin casts divine spells and has class abilities with names such as &quot;Divine Grace&quot; and &quot;Divine Health,&quot; combined with a great deal of the flavor text for the class, (&quot;Divine power protects the paladin and gives her special powers.&nbsp; It wards off harm, protects her from disease, lets her heal herself, and guards her heart against fear,&quot;) is a strong influence on many DMs to decide that paladins are strongly tied to the gods, despite the fact that a paladin need not worship a particular deity.Paladins are also associated with clerics (which are explicitly tied to deities, as you note,) by the fact that they are the only two core classes to be able to turn undead.But in the end, the RAW does not demand that paladins be connected to gods any more than barbarians or fighters, nor that their powers necessarily stem from them.&nbsp; Surely, the flavor text strongly infers it, but strictly by the letter of the law (the SRD in this case does an admirable job of removing the flavor text of the PHB and baring the rules,) you are correct.Is that the entire purpose of this thread?&nbsp; Oi.&nbsp; You win.&nbsp; Next thread.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 2642950, member: 707"] Yes, I can agree with all of this. The fact that the paladin casts divine spells and has class abilities with names such as "Divine Grace" and "Divine Health," combined with a great deal of the flavor text for the class, ("Divine power protects the paladin and gives her special powers. It wards off harm, protects her from disease, lets her heal herself, and guards her heart against fear,") is a strong influence on many DMs to decide that paladins are strongly tied to the gods, despite the fact that a paladin need not worship a particular deity. Paladins are also associated with clerics (which [i]are[/i] explicitly tied to deities, as you note,) by the fact that they are the only two core classes to be able to turn undead. But in the end, the RAW does not [i]demand[/i] that paladins be connected to gods any more than barbarians or fighters, nor that their powers necessarily stem from them. Surely, the flavor text strongly infers it, but strictly by the letter of the law (the SRD in this case does an admirable job of removing the flavor text of the PHB and baring the rules,) you are correct. Is [i]that[/i] the entire purpose of this thread? Oi. You win. Next thread. [/QUOTE]

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