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<blockquote data-quote="pawned79" data-source="post: 1970520" data-attributes="member: 9284"><p>Someone once coined, "I look up. I look down. I look all around. Do I see, hear, feel, smell, taste or sense anything unusual?"</p><p></p><p>After the phrase was said a dozen times in the first game, we came to a clarification that it isn't necessary. As DMs (we all take turns DMing episodes in our story arch) we are not going to attempt to screw anyone over this issue. We use the spot/listen skills all the time. Characters with lots of skill in them traditionally see everything, and those that don't, traditionally don’t see things (my character for example). We've come to rely on curtain characters to have "good eyes." The player feels himself lucky to have a very high rank in spot. We all feel it would wrong the "character" to not allow him spot rolls to see things that other gaming groups would say, "Oh, I'm sorry. You never said you were specifically looking up."</p><p></p><p>Let us take a cinematic example of my issue that I’m talking about. In the movie Spiderman, Willem Dafoe as Norman Osborn comes into the room and finds nothing of note. In actuality, Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker has spider climbed onto the ceiling. Willem got a spot check verses Tobey’s hide check. Mr. Dafoe failed. He leaves the room. What his spot check does get him though is: it allowed him to notice the drop of blood on the ground. Unfortunately for good ol’ Willem, Tobey has moved silently while spider climbing across the room and out the window by the time Willem thinks to look up. Drama! The scene works and appears realistic. It would appear unrealistic if he had walked into the room and the DM ruled, [Using the Nutty Professor Voice] “You go into the room. You see Spiderman on the ceiling in plan site. His mask is off. It is Peter Parker!”</p><p></p><p>Comments & Opinions?</p><p></p><p>Patrick</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pawned79, post: 1970520, member: 9284"] Someone once coined, "I look up. I look down. I look all around. Do I see, hear, feel, smell, taste or sense anything unusual?" After the phrase was said a dozen times in the first game, we came to a clarification that it isn't necessary. As DMs (we all take turns DMing episodes in our story arch) we are not going to attempt to screw anyone over this issue. We use the spot/listen skills all the time. Characters with lots of skill in them traditionally see everything, and those that don't, traditionally don’t see things (my character for example). We've come to rely on curtain characters to have "good eyes." The player feels himself lucky to have a very high rank in spot. We all feel it would wrong the "character" to not allow him spot rolls to see things that other gaming groups would say, "Oh, I'm sorry. You never said you were specifically looking up." Let us take a cinematic example of my issue that I’m talking about. In the movie Spiderman, Willem Dafoe as Norman Osborn comes into the room and finds nothing of note. In actuality, Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker has spider climbed onto the ceiling. Willem got a spot check verses Tobey’s hide check. Mr. Dafoe failed. He leaves the room. What his spot check does get him though is: it allowed him to notice the drop of blood on the ground. Unfortunately for good ol’ Willem, Tobey has moved silently while spider climbing across the room and out the window by the time Willem thinks to look up. Drama! The scene works and appears realistic. It would appear unrealistic if he had walked into the room and the DM ruled, [Using the Nutty Professor Voice] “You go into the room. You see Spiderman on the ceiling in plan site. His mask is off. It is Peter Parker!” Comments & Opinions? Patrick [/QUOTE]
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