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<blockquote data-quote="Tilla the Hun (work)" data-source="post: 1309871" data-attributes="member: 14214"><p>Therein lies the balancing factor, thankfully.</p><p></p><p>Therein lies the balancing factor, thankfully...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"Moving out of more than one square..." pretty much kills the move action (thanks for clearing that one up <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p></p><p>However, the full attack action vs a single melee attack option still confuses the issue...</p><p></p><p>Consider the concept that AoO's are judged by the action for almost every combat chart you can find in the SRD. Thus, the full round attack is a single action that does not normally incur an AoO, although Karmic Strike may allow you to respond to it with a single attack.</p><p></p><p>Note that this also affects the fighter standing next to a ranged combatant... If the ranger opts to use a full attack bonus to shoot the fighter 4 times, the fighter can only attack him on the first opportunity, assuming no special feats. Combat reflexes, according to this concept, will not allow him to make additional AoO's because the ranger is using a full attack action. Karmic Strike would not allow him to do so either... </p><p></p><p>Since Combat Reflexes is a PreReq for Karmic Strike, this seems to be slightly off, i.e Karmic Strike would not provide any benefit beyond what Combat Reflexes is already giving you, other than exteding an AoO from an adjacent opponents Ranged attack to their Melee attack as well - which doesn't quite line up with the prereqs of Karmic Strike (can't post those direct, can I?) or the nature of the feat as it specifically states that when the opponent you threaten 'strikes' or 'hits' you (can't remember if it is strike or hit, suspect it is hit), you immediately make a single melee attack of opportunity against them. It's not when they 'attack' you (if they miss, you get nothing, unlike CR vs Ranged), it's only when they hit you...</p><p></p><p>So unless someone can post what Karmic Strike indicates, I'll have to wait until tonight to double check that and let y'all know tomorrow...</p><p></p><p>Anybody got the books Miniatures or Complete Warrior? It's in one or the other...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tilla the Hun (work), post: 1309871, member: 14214"] Therein lies the balancing factor, thankfully. Therein lies the balancing factor, thankfully... "Moving out of more than one square..." pretty much kills the move action (thanks for clearing that one up :) ) However, the full attack action vs a single melee attack option still confuses the issue... Consider the concept that AoO's are judged by the action for almost every combat chart you can find in the SRD. Thus, the full round attack is a single action that does not normally incur an AoO, although Karmic Strike may allow you to respond to it with a single attack. Note that this also affects the fighter standing next to a ranged combatant... If the ranger opts to use a full attack bonus to shoot the fighter 4 times, the fighter can only attack him on the first opportunity, assuming no special feats. Combat reflexes, according to this concept, will not allow him to make additional AoO's because the ranger is using a full attack action. Karmic Strike would not allow him to do so either... Since Combat Reflexes is a PreReq for Karmic Strike, this seems to be slightly off, i.e Karmic Strike would not provide any benefit beyond what Combat Reflexes is already giving you, other than exteding an AoO from an adjacent opponents Ranged attack to their Melee attack as well - which doesn't quite line up with the prereqs of Karmic Strike (can't post those direct, can I?) or the nature of the feat as it specifically states that when the opponent you threaten 'strikes' or 'hits' you (can't remember if it is strike or hit, suspect it is hit), you immediately make a single melee attack of opportunity against them. It's not when they 'attack' you (if they miss, you get nothing, unlike CR vs Ranged), it's only when they hit you... So unless someone can post what Karmic Strike indicates, I'll have to wait until tonight to double check that and let y'all know tomorrow... Anybody got the books Miniatures or Complete Warrior? It's in one or the other... [/QUOTE]
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