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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SoltariNagumoto" data-source="post: 6686613" data-attributes="member: 6800108">All personal opinions are irrelevant when classifying weapons into melee/ranged, they're already classified. There's a chart in the book that clearly lists which weapons are which. A DM can adjust rules however he wants but that doesn't change what the book says. Note that there is a difference between the terms weapon and attack in the rulebook. They're not interchangeable. If you throw your crossbow as it does not have the thrown property it is now an improvised thrown weapon dealing 1d4 damage and with a normal range of 20 feet and a long range of 60 feet, add your STR to the attack and damage rolls. Not capable of a sneak attack for the same reason throwing a rapier doesn't work.Thrown is a special property that allows some weapons of either the melee or ranged variety to make a ranged attack at the ranges it specifies by throwing the weapon itself, it also states that if the weapon is a melee weapon you use whatever stat would normally be used by said weapon to determine attack and damage bonuses. That's why using vanilla rules only the dagger and the dart can be thrown for a sneak attack. The dagger because it has the finesse property which it keeps when thrown because the thrown property means it remains a dagger with its stats when you throw it. The dart because it has both the ranged and finesse properties which it keeps because it has the thrown property thus maintaining its stats.It's very simple if you stop using weapon and attack interchangeably. The rules never do and you shouldn't either (to avoid confusion on your part and that of your DM and/or players). Check my post on the previous page of this thread if you'd like an even more exhaustive description of the rules at play here.P.S. Just to make sure no one takes it that way. I am not saying that MG.0 was wrong, I'm agreeing with him about the classification thing and expanding on his point. Also answering his question which may or may not have been rhetorical. Then addressing the point that in my observation is usually the source of confusion about this topic.</blockquote>

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