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Can Valor Bard make 2 attacks plus a cantrip at 14th level?
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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 9729656" data-attributes="member: 6677017"><p>I just noticed the way their Extra Attack and Battle magic features are phrased, and it really looks like you could use your Attack action to make one attack plus cast a one-action cantrip, and then since you just cast a qualifying spell use your bonus action to make another attack.</p><p></p><p>That's actually really good (possibly OP by 2014 standards, but probably okay in 2024) if you are allowed to use 2014 green-flame blade or booming blade, because then you are making 3 attacks, one with extra scaling damage, plus extra conditional damage. It's even better than 2014 Eldritch Knight's War Magic at high levels, and from levels 11-16, War Magic leveraging those cantrips was better than just making all your extra attacks. (Of course, 2024 Eldritch Knight can make 4 weapon attacks with the extra cantrip damage added on, so they also got super-buffed that way).</p><p></p><p>Now, green-flame blade and booming blade are straight up better weapon attack cantrips than anything in 2024, so they will likely be updated and nerfed in one of the Forgotten Realms books coming out, but as it is, the combo looks really good.</p><p></p><p>Have others noticed this? Or am I misinterpreting the text? A quick search didn't find any discussions about it anywhere.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 9729656, member: 6677017"] I just noticed the way their Extra Attack and Battle magic features are phrased, and it really looks like you could use your Attack action to make one attack plus cast a one-action cantrip, and then since you just cast a qualifying spell use your bonus action to make another attack. That's actually really good (possibly OP by 2014 standards, but probably okay in 2024) if you are allowed to use 2014 green-flame blade or booming blade, because then you are making 3 attacks, one with extra scaling damage, plus extra conditional damage. It's even better than 2014 Eldritch Knight's War Magic at high levels, and from levels 11-16, War Magic leveraging those cantrips was better than just making all your extra attacks. (Of course, 2024 Eldritch Knight can make 4 weapon attacks with the extra cantrip damage added on, so they also got super-buffed that way). Now, green-flame blade and booming blade are straight up better weapon attack cantrips than anything in 2024, so they will likely be updated and nerfed in one of the Forgotten Realms books coming out, but as it is, the combo looks really good. Have others noticed this? Or am I misinterpreting the text? A quick search didn't find any discussions about it anywhere. [/QUOTE]
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