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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CydKnight" data-source="post: 7164314" data-attributes="member: 6873462">Don't overlook the fact that the vast cavern has no natural light source and it is a Black Dragon.  There are limits to Darkvision and any light source not cast on the dragon going to be extremely limited in the light-sucking darkness of this very large cavern.  Any light is likely going to reflect right off of the water too at many different viewing angles meaning you won't be able to see below it even if it were crystal clear and not murky. When I played this encounter recently, my Monk saw nothing while attempting to Hide on a dark outcropping overlooking the cavern pool before being grabbed by the mouth of this dragon and dragged beneath the surface of the water to nearly drown.  Our players ended up having to fill the cavern with multiple light sources at the water level (Light, Dancing Lights, Torches on the ledges, etc.) then Hold attack actions contingent upon the dragon surfacing in a particular area.  Each player had a different area or zone they were focusing on.  A couple of players made their Held attack actions contingent upon seeing other party members release attack actions.  Little-by-little we lured the dragon from the water and into the air below the cavern roof.  It took 7 of us, lots of healing, and a 4 hour game session to take this dragon down.</blockquote>