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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 6531033" data-attributes="member: 97077">If nobody actually has that spell (or has access to that spell but never uses it), does it really matter? I don't think so. What's more, some class features, spells, and the like remove uncertainty from an action entirely. You cast the spell and it works (barring some edge cases in context). You take an action with a similar goal/intent and there's no guarantee it will work, which is where ability checks may come in.You might &quot;not allow an ability check to restore hit points above what could possibly already be healed,&quot; but that's not the thing that's allowing something to heal in that fashion. It's the fictional action with the uncertain outcome that precedes it. By saying you won't &quot;allow the check&quot; to do that, you're either saying that a fictional action to that effect automatically fails or automatically succeeds. Is it your position that under no circumstances can a character take an action that will restore additional hit points through means other than a class feature or spell that is spelled out in the rules?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 6531033, member: 97077"] If nobody actually has that spell (or has access to that spell but never uses it), does it really matter? I don't think so. What's more, some class features, spells, and the like remove uncertainty from an action entirely. You cast the spell and it works (barring some edge cases in context). You take an action with a similar goal/intent and there's no guarantee it will work, which is where ability checks may come in. You might "not allow an [B]ability check[/B] to restore hit points above what could possibly already be healed," but that's not the thing that's allowing something to heal in that fashion. It's the [I]fictional action with the uncertain outcome[/I] that precedes it. By saying you won't "allow the check" to do that, you're either saying that a fictional action to that effect automatically fails or automatically succeeds. Is it your position that under no circumstances can a character take an action that will restore additional hit points through means other than a class feature or spell that is spelled out in the rules? [/QUOTE]

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