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<blockquote data-quote="MuhVerisimilitude" data-source="post: 9146673" data-attributes="member: 7042567">So let's ignore social stuff entirely and just toss that down the garbage chute it no longer belongs here gone forever.Imagine trying to climb over an obstacle with athletics, or just use: Dimension Door, Misty Step, Fly, Spider ClimbImagine trying to cross a pit or ravine trying to get a rope across, or just cast: Dimension Door, Misty Step, Fly, Spider Climb, Wall of Force, Wall of Stone.Imagine trying to get somewhere far away by riding there, or just cast: Teleport.Imagine trying to block a passage building a barricade, or just cast: Wall of Force, Wall of StoneAnd contrast this with the pathetic level fighter 20 which has no higher movement speed unless he specifically spent feats to do so, something which a caster does not need to do. I mean no wizard will skip out on Dimension Door, Misty Step and Fly.The Echo Knight is sort of good at some of these because of the teleportation ability. Champion? Absolute trash.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MuhVerisimilitude, post: 9146673, member: 7042567"] So let's ignore social stuff entirely and just toss that down the garbage chute it no longer belongs here gone forever. Imagine trying to climb over an obstacle with athletics, or just use: Dimension Door, Misty Step, Fly, Spider Climb Imagine trying to cross a pit or ravine trying to get a rope across, or just cast: Dimension Door, Misty Step, Fly, Spider Climb, Wall of Force, Wall of Stone. Imagine trying to get somewhere far away by riding there, or just cast: Teleport. Imagine trying to block a passage building a barricade, or just cast: Wall of Force, Wall of Stone And contrast this with the pathetic level fighter 20 which has no higher movement speed unless he specifically spent feats to do so, something which a caster does not need to do. I mean no wizard will skip out on Dimension Door, Misty Step and Fly. The Echo Knight is sort of good at [I]some[/I] of these because of the teleportation ability. Champion? Absolute trash. [/QUOTE]

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