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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8343507" data-attributes="member: 82106">Yeah, Holmes Basic was a bit thin there too. I think Moldvay pretty much just looked at it and was clever enough to understand what you are saying and did it. Sadly the lesson wasn't passed on somehow.Yeah, but Classic Traveller does have a lot of strengths in this department. If you go through the standard 3BB character 'lifepath' system there is a VERY high chance that the party will end up with either a Scout ship or a Free Trader. These are HUGE benefits that are really obvious to shoot for (orders of magnitude more valuable than anything else you can earn in a career, literally). Then there are clear hooks, Scout ships are described as often being sent on unofficial missions, and a Free Trader has a mortgage to pay every month. Then they give you a system to roll up new systems, and one to do trade. That's on top of the patron and streetwise stuff, and the TAS, which is an adventure hook generator if you need one.I seem to recall that our first Traveller campaign ran pretty much identically to the next N iterations. Maybe this is not ENTIRELY a strength, lol! Certainly there are enough clearly picked out subsystems and procedures that the referee SHOULD be able to at least present the PCs with a crisis situation pretty quickly, if nothing else (IE failed to fill out the right paperwork in the law level A system due to a blown Bureaucracy check, being chased by a revenue cruiser).Because D&D was written to do one thing really well, dungeon crawls. 1e is written almost more as a reference system, but it does have a pretty good chapter in the PHB about how and what to do as players, and thus what the DM is likely to need to prep, though it is definitely not as utterly clear and up front as Red Box Basic.Once the decision to try to pretend that D&D and its process could do 'stories' well, then clarity and coherence of purpose were out the window. I mean, look at what people are saying here! Really the only types of adventures that can be coherently articulated as having a clear process in 5e are 'crawls' in some sense. The problem is pretending all this other stuff works. Mearles insisted on 'three pillars' but he cannot even articulate how the game works for 2 of them. How would you write such a game? I don't even know! Mike sure doesn't.</blockquote>

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