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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6261778" data-attributes="member: 177">Close.  Physicist, actually.That seems a very odd assertion.  There's a whole lot of people who aren't, "the most brilliant thinkers the world has ever produced," who get along with modern science just fine.  That, however, is an aside that doesn't address the real point - there is a notable difference between "I don't understand this" or "this confounds me, personally" and "logic and reason do not apply to this".  If logic and reason do apply, then it isn't magic, it is then just science we haven't figured out yet.You're the only one who has suggested "simple inconsistencies".On a fictional world, sure, the laws may be different.  I've heard people propose that the Moon is made of green cheese, too.  "People have proposed" all sorts of wacky things that don't match what actually happens.See that list of references that are all over a decade old as evidence of current "lively debate"?  Science offers inviolable laws.  What it doesn't offer is a 100% guarantee that the laws as we know them are absolutely correct, as stated.  I think, though, that you ought to give folks your working definition of "supernatural".  Some folks use it to mean, "phenomenon that human science has not explained" and others mean, "a manifestation or event arising from a force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature."  (Note, closely, that the second doesn't say, "...beyond *current* understanding...").What's your definition?I think he wasn't referring to past writings, but to your activity in the thread - spending time, effort, or energy in deciding why something cannot be, rather than on how it could be.</blockquote>

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