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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6263173" data-attributes="member: 177">You were the one who claimed that modern science "...confounds the most brilliant thinkers this world has ever produced."  That's a pretty strong statement, and I think you need to back it up way better than claiming that you, personally feel there's some mystery to it. Oh, are you the sort who feels nothing can be known if you cannot see it with the naked eye?  Science these days has learned that what cannot be directly observed can be inferred from a preponderance of evidence - just because you can't see it, doesn't mean you can't work out what's going on.  Slam enough pocket watches against the wall, and you can figure out how they work by looking at the pieces that fly out, so to speak.I think you're playing a bit loose with definitions.  There's a difference between, "I don't know everything" and "there's a mystery", especially in the descriptive sense like, "a sense of mystery" which magic is supposed to invoke.  To make it thoroughly mundane for illustrative purposes:  I don't know in what aisle the new grocery store keeps plungers in. There's nothing mysterious about it, though - I have confidence that I can find them if I really need them.Therein lies the difference between mere ignorance and mystery - in a mystery, there's a lack of confidence that anyone can, or will, find the answer.  Ignorance just needs effort to clear up.  And therein lies the difference between science and magic.  In science, someone actually understands how it works in entirely rational terms.  With magic, you don't have that assurance.  Thus, for magical rules, you expect at some point for them to be impervious to logic - that prevents anyone from understanding how the thing works in entirely rational terms, ever.</blockquote>

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