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<blockquote data-quote="Matt Thomason" data-source="post: 8896918" data-attributes="member: 6777331"><p>It's lost in as much as moving to ORC for a new work means we no longer have the right to use something produced under the OGL in that work. Dual-licensing is a possibility <em>if</em> all contributions referenced are also dual-licensed, and we know of one glaring entry that is not likely to be <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>So what I mean is it's lost to the ORC community, because it can only ever be reused under OGL, or by completely rewriting it in a way not to infringe copyright - the latter is something many of us would be very uncomfortable attempting, or by ensuring you have an ORC license for every single component used.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I can continue using it under the OGL. <em>If</em> I want to keep releasing stuff under the OGL.</p><p></p><p>I also understand that it is <em>my choice</em> of no longer working under the OGL that has caused this. That is something I'm willing to accept as a consequence. I just wish it wasn't a consequence - it makes me feel sad and disappointed <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Example:</p><p>If I use a hypothetical Pathfinder 2.5 SRD from Paizo (released under the ORC) for my new work, that will not allow me to reuse a class by Oliver K Stennhauser that he only ever released under the OGL for PF2.0. Even if he grants me permission, he also referenced a Feat by Joe Reyman in that, which means I need him to ORC-license <em>that</em>. However, that Feat was only ever published in a book that he reused twenty other OGL licensed works in, and cannot recall whether or not he reused anyone elses work in creating that specific Feat (he only noted what was used in the book as a whole), and is relying on the OGL to cover his usage. Now I have to get all twenty other contributors to ORC-license <em>their</em> work. And, finally, all of the above contributions were theoretically dependant on an SRD by WotC, which is unlikely to ever get ORC-licensed, which means I have to tread extremely carefully to excise anything I'm not sure is 100% the original work of one of the people I <em>do</em> have a license from.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Matt Thomason, post: 8896918, member: 6777331"] It's lost in as much as moving to ORC for a new work means we no longer have the right to use something produced under the OGL in that work. Dual-licensing is a possibility [I]if[/I] all contributions referenced are also dual-licensed, and we know of one glaring entry that is not likely to be ;) So what I mean is it's lost to the ORC community, because it can only ever be reused under OGL, or by completely rewriting it in a way not to infringe copyright - the latter is something many of us would be very uncomfortable attempting, or by ensuring you have an ORC license for every single component used. Yes, I can continue using it under the OGL. [I]If[/I] I want to keep releasing stuff under the OGL. I also understand that it is [I]my choice[/I] of no longer working under the OGL that has caused this. That is something I'm willing to accept as a consequence. I just wish it wasn't a consequence - it makes me feel sad and disappointed ;) Example: If I use a hypothetical Pathfinder 2.5 SRD from Paizo (released under the ORC) for my new work, that will not allow me to reuse a class by Oliver K Stennhauser that he only ever released under the OGL for PF2.0. Even if he grants me permission, he also referenced a Feat by Joe Reyman in that, which means I need him to ORC-license [I]that[/I]. However, that Feat was only ever published in a book that he reused twenty other OGL licensed works in, and cannot recall whether or not he reused anyone elses work in creating that specific Feat (he only noted what was used in the book as a whole), and is relying on the OGL to cover his usage. Now I have to get all twenty other contributors to ORC-license [I]their[/I] work. And, finally, all of the above contributions were theoretically dependant on an SRD by WotC, which is unlikely to ever get ORC-licensed, which means I have to tread extremely carefully to excise anything I'm not sure is 100% the original work of one of the people I [I]do[/I] have a license from. [/QUOTE]
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