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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8693450" data-attributes="member: 5889">I mean if your going the route that you can't use fireball to hit people with hopelessness, I think you have to take it all the way. If you believe the RAI is "your so hopeless that you just don't don't think those spells would do any good"....than to me wall of fire is no different. Why bother....it will never get anyone....no one will fall for it, its hopeless. etc etcI don't think you can have the cake and eat it too. If your saying fireball is not allowed because its against the spirit of the symbol, than I think all harmful spells would be disallowed period. Though frankly, at that point I don't know why any spellcasting would be allowed.Wall of Stone....it won't help, they will just figure out a way around it...its hopeless.Bless....why bother, even with my power you won't be able to stop them....its hopeless.</blockquote>