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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Magus_Jerel" data-source="post: 147057" data-attributes="member: 3940">standard action: The most basic type of action. Standard actions allow a character to perfrom an activyt and move a distance less than or equal to his or her speed. The character can move either before or after the activity.move equivalent action: An action that takes the place of moving at normal speed. A character can take a MEA instead of moving at normal speed in a standard action or as a partial action, or two MEA instead of a double move.Partial action:  .... as a general rule, you can do anything you could do in a partial action that you could do in a standard action, minus a move.therefore...Standard A = MEA + Partial A- given definition standard action and MEAStandard A = MEA + MEA - given definition Double Move Therefore - MEA + Partial A = MEA + MEA - by substitution Partial A = MEA - by elimination Ok - so I have to formally add the two words in bold... same effect.To "force" the rules to work as you are stating - you have to state that a partial action can include a mea, but an mea can't be a partial action.in pure form:partial action -> move equivalent actionand NOTmove equivalent action -> partial actionMUST be the case for your version of things to work.Problem is - if you do just that; you have to eat the algebra.  It proves the second statement is concretely true, and you get a logical inconsistency.  The "error" is in denying the second part of this.  I know EXACTLY what you are thinking - and I keep showing you people exactly why it is wrong.</blockquote>

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