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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 147113" data-attributes="member: 2013">Accident Dicto SimpliciterNow I know why I was uncomfortable with Magus_Jerel's derivation...Magus_Jerel, your argument has a fallacy in it... Accident Dicto Simpliciteror, the fallacy of accident.The fallacy of accident begins with the statement of some principle that is true as a general rule, but then errs by applying this principle to a specific case that is unusual or atypical in some way.Your ENTIRE ARGUMENT hinges on comparing the general rule (the Standard Action) to a specific case (Double Move).  This is quite clearly a case of Accident Dicto Simpliciter.It has been shown as a derivation from the General case (Standard Action) that you can arrive at the Specific Case:Double Move = MEA + (PA used as MEA)Your continued reliance upon the lines:Std Action = PA + MEADouble Move = MEA + MEADouble Move is a Standard ActionTherefore PA + MEA = MEA + MEAand MEA = PA by eliminationrepresents your continued clinging to this logical fallacy.I have tried to be somewhat less than inflammatory, but even my patience has its limits.  Your logic is fallacious, therefore your "crushing algebra" is baseless, therefore your argument is not only flawed but flat-out wrong.  Stop demanding that people submit to your "superior argument backed by algebra" when in fact it can be torn down by those three words... Accident Dicto Simpliciter.You have now reached the point where you ought to recant, abandon your fallacious use of logic to support an indefensible position, which is clearly in error (not only in violation of the spirit of the rules but the letter as well), and admit that you fell prey to a logical fallacy (there is no shame in this, we all do it from time to time).  That it took 40+ posts to find the fallacy tells me you think things through well, but in the end, if your logic is shown to be faulty, you must abandon it and its attendant conclusions as wrong.  In this case, my friend, your logic was fallacious and therefore you are wrong.--The Sigil</blockquote>

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