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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Magus_Jerel" data-source="post: 147725" data-attributes="member: 3940">sigil -3.) "Double Move = Standard Action" - COMPARISON OF SPECIFIC CASE AND A GENERAL CASE The above manuver is a definitional truth - as the double move is EXPLICITLY defined as a "special standard action" under the double move section of the PHB.  It is a definition of categories, and is therefore automatically in the "general "category of statements.All Double moves are "special standard actions"All Double moves are MEA + MEAAll Standard actions are PA + MEAI fail to see where you can invoke Accident Dicto Simpliciter on account of any "all/some/none" or "universal/specific" quantification error.  I never leave the "all" category of judgement.  I am fully entitled to compare objects in the same category ... in this case "standard action", so long as the All quantifier is in place.The "proof against" requires that it ultimately be proven:it is the case thatPA -> meaand it is not the case thatmea -> PAI conceede the former - but it is impossible to prove the latter. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And caliban demonstrated by an entirely different path standard action = full round action = PA + PA, which generates a specific contrary case to the idea that they CANNOT be converted as your counterpoint requires.  He is also - of course - trying to evade the fact that he did make the assertion. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Caliban:Full Round Action = slightly less time than Partial+Partial. Happy now? um... nope - as I said before, you have discreet "categories" on all combat time.  You can't break your moments down which are to wit:roundfull-round actionstandard actionpartial actionmove equivalent actionfree actionnot an anctionunless you want to disregard rounds altogether... and then I get to use universal quantum mechanical theory, and really slam home my point.no such thing as "slightly less than" - categories are around when it comes to objective categories.kreynolds -You just broke the law of identity in making that statement.  Logic cares nothing for circumstance.  It CANNOT care to function as it does.  This is the equivalent of saying that this equation is true "only when I want it to be true and false at all other times".  This is the philosophical denial I was speaking of.  Nice try tho <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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