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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 148627" data-attributes="member: 99">I will, by no stretch, claim to be as mathematically and logically proficient as some of the others posting in this thread.  But, considering that neither side seems to have budged an inch in the last four pages, I figured that a fresh perspective couldn't hurt.  At worst, I will have wasted a few minutes of my time and you guys can keep arguing.Let's say I can run a quarter mile in a minute (I probably can't quite manage this but I could a few years ago).  Logically, I must be able to run a mile in four minutes, twenty miles in eighty minutes and a thousand miles in four thousand minutes.  I could run coast to coast across the United States in a little over 8 days!  Amazing!Clearly, we can't use math to absolutely quantify the capabilites of a human.  I don't think that we can use it to absolutely quantify what a character can do in a roleplaying game either.Magus_Jerel assumes that every round a character performs the maximum possible with no loss in effeciency and that every set of actions that can be performed within a round must take precisely the same amount of time.  I don't think that is correct and I think that is why his equations don't jibe with the way the rules are supposed to work, even if they do work mathematically and logically (which I don't concede to).For what it's worth, here is the way I conceptualize the actions and explain them to new players to help them get their minds around how the game works:A move or MEA requires approximately 49% of your turn.A Standard Action requires approximately 51% of your turn.A Full round action takes all of your turn.A Full attack action takes all of your turn and I figure that around 90% of it is spent attacking and the other 10% is for your 5ft. step.A partial action is maybe a bit more than the 51% that a Standard Action takes and only comes up in special circumstances.So...You can move or do a MEA AND you can do a Standard Action.orYou can move and move or move and do a MEA or do 2 MEA's.  But what happens to the extra 2%?  You lose it.  Characters do not represent perfect mathematical abstractions, they represent people and people don't always do things with perfect effeciency.  So you lose the 2%.Same as if you do a full attack and don't choose to take a 5 foot step.  The 10% that I attribute to taking the step is not carried over in any way.  It is lost.What I'm getting at is that I don't think that "all rounds are equal" and therefore no equations based on that assumption are valid.</blockquote>

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