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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 148675" data-attributes="member: 2013">Fiat...I see *no* statement in the rules to justify your first statement. I will grant that all double moves take as much *or less* time than all standard actions, but now you are REALLY stretching to hang on to your point of view.Your argument is now based on how long each action takes... and you are trying to base it upon your arbitrary definition that an MEA is 3 sec and a PA is 3 sec.&nbsp; I can just as easily base it upon my arbitrary definition that an MEA is 2.5 sec and a PA is 3.5 sec.Your argument has basically devolved to, &quot;if you let me make the rules and definitions, I can win the argument.&quot;&nbsp; Pardon the phrase, but, &quot;duh.&quot;&nbsp; Of COURSE you can win if you are allowed to make all the rules and definitions.The only definition we have is that a Double Move is a Standard Action.&nbsp; Nowhere in the rules is complete temporal equivalency stated.&nbsp; There *is* an implication is that a Standard Action takes at least as long as a Double Move, but that does not mean that a Standard Action takes EXACTLY as long as a double move.Again, all I have asked is that you present me an argument based upon the rules, and not your outside interpretations (such as a value in seconds for how long a PA takes).&nbsp; You *still* have not yet done so.--The Sigil</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 148675, member: 2013"] [b]Fiat...[/b] I see *no* statement in the rules to justify your first statement. I will grant that all double moves take as much *or less* time than all standard actions, but now you are REALLY stretching to hang on to your point of view. Your argument is now based on how long each action takes... and you are trying to base it upon your arbitrary definition that an MEA is 3 sec and a PA is 3 sec. I can just as easily base it upon my arbitrary definition that an MEA is 2.5 sec and a PA is 3.5 sec. Your argument has basically devolved to, "if you let me make the rules and definitions, I can win the argument." Pardon the phrase, but, "duh." Of COURSE you can win if you are allowed to make all the rules and definitions. The only definition we have is that a Double Move is a Standard Action. Nowhere in the rules is complete temporal equivalency stated. There *is* an implication is that a Standard Action takes at least as long as a Double Move, but that does not mean that a Standard Action takes EXACTLY as long as a double move. Again, all I have asked is that you present me an argument based upon the rules, and not your outside interpretations (such as a value in seconds for how long a PA takes). You *still* have not yet done so. --The Sigil [/QUOTE]

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