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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1240526" data-attributes="member: 5890">Its flavour text description, which doesn't necessarily use game terms. Remember that bit - we're using the plain language of melee attack if you want to include that as part of your argument.In game terms it is.Well... actually it's a miscellaneous full round action which provokes attacks of opportunity, but I'll let that slide.In plain language, however:Now admittedly these are not the only possibilities, but they ARE the ones which make sense in our context (ie - melee also describes a general brawl, attack also includes descriptions of large scale military operations)So - We're at close quarters, in hand to hand, in a skirmish, certainly in a scuffle, and because we want to cleave, we also qualify for the 'especially involving many people'.We're also setting upon someone with a hostile action, specifically to injure your opponent.Sounds to me like we qualify for a plain language melee attack.Which is all garbage - like our esteemed small blue friend said, once you've got two opponents aware of each other, initiative and the surprise round starts. A particularly flexible GM might not bother in the case of a lone helpless opponent (like the only possible target of a CDG attack)BZZT. Power attack never states melee attack in the mechanics of the feat. And if you're going for plain language, I think I've just got you beat...Power attack requires a melee damage roll. Coup de grace simply states "You automatically hit and score a critical hit." with no other information on how to resolve the attack. If you REALLY want to say that a CDG with a melee weapon doesn't use the rules for melee attacks on resolving damage, then there IS NO WAY TO RESOLVE IT.What on earth is a concentration action?? Now you're just making stuff up.Unfortunately swinging wildly isn't part of the definiation of melee attack. Furthermore CDG does make use of the rules for resolving melee attacks, specifically those for resolving melee damage. Power attack increases melee damage. CDG does melee damage. What on earth is the problem here?I think you'll find that you're taking anything BUT the literal definition. You're taking a very subjective view of things - you're running on 'fairness', and your own imagination of things. A literal reading doesn't support your view in any way, unless you make the assumption that flavour text makes use of rules terms and doesn't use normal real world language, something which I would have to say is patently untrue and counterintuitive to boot.</blockquote>

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