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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 256918" data-attributes="member: 2829">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can you cleave after making an AoO?That's neither here nor there, as the Cleave description doesn't use the term "close". In fact, it uses the term "immediate vicinity", which is much stronger than the mere term "close".I restrict it to 5-feet, or a target in the "immediate vicinity", if you will.It's not rule 0. See previous comments.EDIT: Restricting Cleave to 5-feet is indeed rule 0. See later post.Because I don't see how it's "broken" in regards to AoOs.Like I said, it's not rule 0. Furthermore, I just don't see this "weird result" you mention. Everything about cleaving off of an AoO makes perfect sense to me.EDIT: Restricting Cleave to 5-feet is indeed rule 0. See later post.How so?Huh? You lost me here. I think you left something out.Attacks of opportunities themselves should be disincentive enough to try anything that would provoke them. Cleave doesn't make it any worse than it already is, especially since I think that's how it already works. If, however, you viewpoint is that cleaving shouldn't be allow off of an AoO as the rules already allow, then that's a whole different story, and one more appropriate for the house rules thread (but I don't think that's your viewpoint).True. But I also have a feeling that a "real hero" wouldn't pull such a boneheaded stunt like drinking a potion in the face of powerful monster, unless of course that "real hero" did so in an act of absolute desparation. Although, if desparation were the case, obviously, the fact that you can cleave off of an AoO doesn't make that apparently dangerous-as-hell-monster any more dangerous. The fact that the monster just cleaved your friend because of your act of desparation is just a sign of how completely nasty that monster is.</blockquote>

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