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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HEL Pit Fiend" data-source="post: 256932" data-attributes="member: 5971">Hey this is a topic I have experience with <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />, we actually had this situation happen to us in a past session.For those of you who believe that cleave only works on opponents standing next to each other (i.e. the guy you cleave attack must be 5 feet away from the guy you dropped), you are incorrect.  "Officially" you may make a cleave attack anywhere you threaten, not just 5 foot from where you dropped an opponent, even 180 degrees behind you.There is an example of this in SnF page 58.  In a nutshell this is what happens, ol' Tordek the fighter wades in and faces off with 2 fire giants standing in a 120 degree arc in front of Tordek.  Tordek drops firegiant 1 and cleave attacks firegiant 2 who happens to be 10 feet away from firegiant 1's now dead body (nice diagram in book).Of course if you don't allow SnF in your campaigns then I guess it's not official for you, but for us, it's good stuff.Also, I tend to agree with Ridley on his points on not allowing the use of cleave in AoO.The arguement, I forget who made it, that simply dropping a guy who provoked an AoO allows a cleave on a non-AoO provoking opponent because that guy is somehow more vulnerable due to his friend going down MIGHT be true, but is very speculative.  Her's a better example, lets say 2 guys, both veteran fighters are having drinks in a crowded bar room.  Both have the cleave and combat reflexes abilities.  Fighter 1 makes insults about fighter 2's mother, fighter 2 in return makes insults about fighter 1's wife.  Both fighters jump up, knocking over the table and draw weapons.  They procede to take blows at each other.  Other bar patrons, not wanting to get clobbered by stray swings, quickly get up and hustle to move out of the way of the two brawling fighters.  A number of bar patrons move through various threatened squares of the two brawling fighters and provoke AoOs.  Unfortunatly for the patrons, the 2 brawling fighters are EVIL, and decide to kill the 4 and 5 hit point peons to get free cleave attacks on the other offending fighter........ NO, not in my campaign, not gonna happen, I'm with Ridley on this one.</blockquote>

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