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Can you cleave after making an AoO?
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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 260713" data-attributes="member: 996"><p><strong>Re: Re: Just to sow further confusion...</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Heh, we agree on something.</p><p></p><p>Mobility gives an AC bonus against movement-related AoOs. The bonus attack from the Cleave was generated by a movement-related AoO, the character with mobility is, himself, moving and provoking an AoO, so it makes sense that Mobility would work against it. </p><p></p><p>Of course, I picked an instance where even I would agree that cleaving off an AoO would be OK.</p><p></p><p>Now, just for the sake of argument, let's assume that it's OK to cleave off an AoO, period, regardless of what the cleavee is doing.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Say you have Cleave and EWP:Spiked Chain (fun!). A cagey pair of enemies try a moderately sophisticated tactic against you. The first, a Rogue, readies a partial charge against you, to coincide whith his buddy's Spring Attack, so he can get a flanking shot in. The Rogue, however, blows his tumble check (again - or, maybe his DM is mean and won't let him tumble on a partial charge, but didn't mention it to him) provoking a movement-related AoO from you. You kill him with the AoO, and, since his buddy is in mid-spring-attack and adjacent to you, you Cleave into him.</p><p></p><p>Now, the guy obviously has mobility, and he is moving, does he get his +4 dodge bonus vs your Cleave-off-AoO?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 260713, member: 996"] [b]Re: Re: Just to sow further confusion...[/b] Heh, we agree on something. Mobility gives an AC bonus against movement-related AoOs. The bonus attack from the Cleave was generated by a movement-related AoO, the character with mobility is, himself, moving and provoking an AoO, so it makes sense that Mobility would work against it. Of course, I picked an instance where even I would agree that cleaving off an AoO would be OK. Now, just for the sake of argument, let's assume that it's OK to cleave off an AoO, period, regardless of what the cleavee is doing. Say you have Cleave and EWP:Spiked Chain (fun!). A cagey pair of enemies try a moderately sophisticated tactic against you. The first, a Rogue, readies a partial charge against you, to coincide whith his buddy's Spring Attack, so he can get a flanking shot in. The Rogue, however, blows his tumble check (again - or, maybe his DM is mean and won't let him tumble on a partial charge, but didn't mention it to him) provoking a movement-related AoO from you. You kill him with the AoO, and, since his buddy is in mid-spring-attack and adjacent to you, you Cleave into him. Now, the guy obviously has mobility, and he is moving, does he get his +4 dodge bonus vs your Cleave-off-AoO? [/QUOTE]
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