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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Baron Von StarBlade" data-source="post: 262277" data-attributes="member: 1522">Wow another AoO + Cleave thread. I thought we had hammered this one into the ground last time around. I'm not going to get into the discussion on which is right or wrong since I think both parties know how the rules operate as written. It all boils down to what is balanced and what isn't balanced. I personally think AoO + Cleave is okay but my party doesn't try to abuse the rules or take advantage of rule loop holes.     However I did think I'd drop this tidbit of information about the Summon Monster + attack ally + Cleave tatic. The summon monster spell specificially states it will attack the nearest enemy of the caster to the best of its abilities, unless the caster can communicate with the creature. This will be very difficult for arcane spell casters since most of the lower level summoned monsters are unintelligent Celestial/Fiendish animals. Arcane spellcasters don't have the ability to communicate with animals therefore they can't command them. That being said if a spell caster did tell the summoned reature to attack a fellow party member, that would be a violation of alignment (unless the party was evil).       Just my $.02[edit] Doh HTML Tags in a post! [/edit]</blockquote>