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Can you craft Cantrip Spell Scrolls?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jefferson Jim" data-source="post: 6840659" data-attributes="member: 6778175"><p>There is a lot of debate at our table around the existence of cantrips spell scrolls (magical/ready-to-cast), and whether you can craft them during downtime from the ones you know/memorized.</p><p></p><p><u>The argument against creation of Cantrip scrolls</u>: </p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">DMG129; "If a spell will be produced by the item being created, the creator <u><strong>must</strong></u> expend one spell slot of the spell's level for each day of the creation process." Cantrips do not expend a slot therefore does not qualify as eligible to be created.</li> </ul><p></p><p><u>The argument for allowing creation of Cantrip scrolls</u>:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">DMG200; references Cantrip in the Spell Scroll table as a common spell scroll with Save DC 13/Attack +5. If you cannot create a scroll yourself, this table would not exist.</li> </ul><p></p><p><u>Grey area reference:</u></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">SCAG77; "Spellbooks. In contrast, magical books of spells and formulae cost much much more. Each simple spell or cantrip in such a tome costs 25gp or so..." A few even stated that this reference implies a cantrip CAN be written into a spellbook. Personally I think this probably means written cantrips are nothing more than formulas.</li> </ul><p></p><p>If you do allow ready-to-cast cantrip spell scrolls, then it follows all the normal rules for scroll mass duplications, and be craftable despite not consuming a spell slot.</p><p>If you do NOT allow ready-to-cast cantrip scrolls, you can only find cantrip formulas that can be used when a character levels up and can learn new cantrips.</p><p></p><p>I dunno.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jefferson Jim, post: 6840659, member: 6778175"] There is a lot of debate at our table around the existence of cantrips spell scrolls (magical/ready-to-cast), and whether you can craft them during downtime from the ones you know/memorized. [U]The argument against creation of Cantrip scrolls[/U]: [LIST] [*]DMG129; "If a spell will be produced by the item being created, the creator [U][B]must[/B][/U] expend one spell slot of the spell's level for each day of the creation process." Cantrips do not expend a slot therefore does not qualify as eligible to be created. [/LIST] [U]The argument for allowing creation of Cantrip scrolls[/U]: [LIST] [*]DMG200; references Cantrip in the Spell Scroll table as a common spell scroll with Save DC 13/Attack +5. If you cannot create a scroll yourself, this table would not exist. [/LIST] [U]Grey area reference:[/U] [LIST] [*]SCAG77; "Spellbooks. In contrast, magical books of spells and formulae cost much much more. Each simple spell or cantrip in such a tome costs 25gp or so..." A few even stated that this reference implies a cantrip CAN be written into a spellbook. Personally I think this probably means written cantrips are nothing more than formulas. [/LIST] If you do allow ready-to-cast cantrip spell scrolls, then it follows all the normal rules for scroll mass duplications, and be craftable despite not consuming a spell slot. If you do NOT allow ready-to-cast cantrip scrolls, you can only find cantrip formulas that can be used when a character levels up and can learn new cantrips. I dunno. [/QUOTE]
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