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<blockquote data-quote="Lucas Blackstone" data-source="post: 4321868" data-attributes="member: 68942">I have several things to add or repeat.A) First off, as I expressed along ago, I know what the writers intended, and do not believe it is anything but square shaped blasts. RAI is different then RAW though, and we are simply discussing how it is worked by the letter, and not how it is supposed to be ruled. B) The actual problem here is that using squares as a measurement results in different distances depending on how you orient the squares. However it is perfectly legal in D&amp;D. This is proven because of how movement works.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; s&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; o x x&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; o x x&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; o x x &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; s&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; o x x&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; x o x&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; x x oAssuming the o's are the path of movement and s is the starting square, both of these are perfectly legal distances to move. However if you measure the distance moved on the grid, they are different amounts of movement. BOTH are three squares of movement though even though they are not the same distance. I know that makes no sense at first, but such is using diagonals and not counting them as more distance. The same applies to a blast area drawn under the same rules.Yes, the rules leave you to believe that the blasts should be squares, but do say they HAVE to be. If you go by the diagrams provided, and say those are the only intended shapes then you would have to say there is only one wall that can ever be made because the wall diagram only shows that. There can be no other shapes.Again, the key wording is that the parameters for a blast do not say you cannot measure the sides of the blast diagonally ( even though I believe they should say blasts can only be squares. )KarinsDad is NOT saying it must be run this way, or that the writers intended for it to be such, simply that it is the way it is written.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lucas Blackstone, post: 4321868, member: 68942"] I have several things to add or repeat. A) First off, as I expressed along ago, I know what the writers intended, and do not believe it is anything but square shaped blasts. RAI is different then RAW though, and we are simply discussing how it is worked by the letter, and not how it is supposed to be ruled. B) The actual problem here is that using squares as a measurement results in different distances depending on how you orient the squares. However it is perfectly legal in D&D. This is proven because of how movement works. s o x x o x x o x x s o x x x o x x x o Assuming the o's are the path of movement and s is the starting square, both of these are perfectly legal distances to move. However if you measure the distance moved on the grid, they are different amounts of movement. BOTH are three squares of movement though even though they are not the same distance. I know that makes no sense at first, but such is using diagonals and not counting them as more distance. The same applies to a blast area drawn under the same rules. Yes, the rules leave you to believe that the blasts should be squares, but do say they HAVE to be. If you go by the diagrams provided, and say those are the only intended shapes then you would have to say there is only one wall that can ever be made because the wall diagram only shows that. There can be no other shapes. Again, the key wording is that the parameters for a blast do not say you cannot measure the sides of the blast diagonally ( even though I believe they should say blasts can only be squares. ) KarinsDad is NOT saying it must be run this way, or that the writers intended for it to be such, simply that it is the way it is written. [/QUOTE]

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