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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 7364868">I don't understand the problem.  Bob makes the plans, Joe kills the mobs.  If Bob makes a bad plan he may live, but Joe will die.  If Joe dies, aside from having to do it all over, Joe needs to have a new character, and Bob will get no loot.  So it's in Bob's interest to make a good plan so that Joe lives and Joe brings home the loot.  Sure, I guess if everyone is slave to your will and does whatever you want them to whenever you want and the players don't mind making more characters to serve you....but then that sounds more like you're the GM, not a player.  Your silly hypothetical relies on too many improbable variables, what's to stop the party from kicking you out?  Nothing...other than its a group game.  If your plans are good, they may have no objection to doing this kind of legwork for you.  I mean, it gets them XP too, and loot and maybe even some stuff your character doesn't know about.  For all you know, they're barely making it back alive with half the treasure, when in reality they're each taking a small slice of your share before turning it back in.What's the problem then?  If the rest of the group enjoys it, and they enjoy it, why not?This sounds highly like a system where the DM gives his "friends" XP for playing the way he likes, and doesn't give people who are unfamiliar with how the DM wants them to play (likely something the DM doesn't bother to explain) and makes judgement calls over every crit and missed roll.This is the sort of thing that leads to power-building and making characters who can "do everything" and don't need a party, since each of them are constantly being judged individually instead of on what they were able to accomplish thanks to the group effort; there's no incentive for them to support the "group".  Which sounds awfully counterproductive to a group-based game.</blockquote>

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