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<blockquote data-quote="Jackinthegreen" data-source="post: 5604111" data-attributes="member: 6678119">On the topic of Warlocks, I wouldn't say that their Imbue ability is so overpowered as to make them Tier 0 even when you factor in always being able to take 10.&nbsp; If that were the case then an Artificer surely competes at the same level.Dandu, I agree that attack rolls and such aren't affected by Empower.&nbsp; Simply put those are properties of attacking in general, not of the specific spell.&nbsp; Empower Spell does say &quot;effects of the spell&quot; after all.&nbsp; Along that line I guess I have to agree that the Empowered Claws only get their Xd4 multiplied and not the bonus from Strength or whatever.&nbsp; That begs the question on whether crits benefit from Empower, since crits are a part of attacking too.On the one hand, the specific crit wouldn't have happened without having cast the spell, which means the crit is part of the spell.&nbsp; On the other, the crit is still part of attacking and maybe should overrule the 1.5 empowerment because a crit does at least 2x the normal damage.&nbsp; I guess as a DM I'd have to see whether the character is abusing it and the effect is enough to unbalance the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jackinthegreen, post: 5604111, member: 6678119"] On the topic of Warlocks, I wouldn't say that their Imbue ability is so overpowered as to make them Tier 0 even when you factor in always being able to take 10. If that were the case then an Artificer surely competes at the same level. Dandu, I agree that attack rolls and such aren't affected by Empower. Simply put those are properties of attacking in general, not of the specific spell. Empower Spell does say "effects of the spell" after all. Along that line I guess I have to agree that the Empowered Claws only get their Xd4 multiplied and not the bonus from Strength or whatever. That begs the question on whether crits benefit from Empower, since crits are a part of attacking too. On the one hand, the specific crit wouldn't have happened without having cast the spell, which means the crit is part of the spell. On the other, the crit is still part of attacking and maybe should overrule the 1.5 empowerment because a crit does at least 2x the normal damage. I guess as a DM I'd have to see whether the character is abusing it and the effect is enough to unbalance the game. [/QUOTE]

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