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<blockquote data-quote="unleashed" data-source="post: 2608075" data-attributes="member: 31408">The examples are not exhaustive for every creature ever imagined, but they are exhaustive of the situations that are allowed to take place during flanking. It doesn't matter what creature is weilding what weapon...if we swap the orc with the hobgoblin does it change the situation shown in the example, no of course it doesn't. There is still a creature with a 10 ft reach weapon which is threatening, and a creature with a 5 ft weapon which is threatening...the name of each creature is irrelevant...for all I care swap orc with a bugbear or goblin, it doesn't matter unless the new creature has a 0 reach and therefore can't flank.The example with Tordek shows nothing of the kind, it just clearly shows that Mialee cannot flank because the creature opposite does not threaten.And I say it's not incidental that all of the examples showing flanking show both creatures threatening if they are flanking, and there are no situations shown with one creature receiving a flanking bonus, while the creature opposite doesn't. The diagrams are exhaustive if you don't suppose there are nonspecific situations missing, and the creatures supplied in the example don't matter and could easily be exchanged with a similar creature.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="unleashed, post: 2608075, member: 31408"] The examples are not exhaustive for every creature ever imagined, but they are exhaustive of the [I]situations[/I] that are allowed to take place during flanking. It doesn't matter what creature is weilding what weapon...if we swap the orc with the hobgoblin does it change the [I]situation[/I] shown in the example, no of course it doesn't. There is still a creature with a 10 ft reach weapon which is threatening, and a creature with a 5 ft weapon which is threatening...the name of each creature is irrelevant...for all I care swap orc with a bugbear or goblin, it doesn't matter unless the new creature has a 0 reach and therefore can't flank. The example with Tordek shows nothing of the kind, it just clearly shows that Mialee cannot flank because the creature opposite does not threaten. And I say it's not incidental that all of the examples showing flanking show both creatures threatening if they are flanking, and there are no situations shown with one creature receiving a flanking bonus, while the creature opposite doesn't. The diagrams are exhaustive if you don't suppose there are nonspecific [I]situations[/I] missing, and the creatures supplied in the example don't matter and could easily be exchanged with a similar creature. [/QUOTE]

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