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<blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3065180" data-attributes="member: 35788">This is my understanding as well - adding the exception of the use of the spell Arrow Mind, of course.As to Patryn's earlier example, So long as the rogue is a TWF and has a dagger in one hand and a wand in the other, why wouldn't he be in a position of flanking an enemy in a square beside him?&nbsp; He obviously threatens all the sqares around him (so long as he is at least small in size and not incapacitated).&nbsp; Now, if he threw that dagger and didn't quickdraw a replacement I can see why he no longer is flanking, because the wand doesn't allow him to threaten.EDIT:I should add that I am using the definition for flanking from the perspective of granting a bonus to another person.&nbsp; So long as he threatens and another person in the right spot is making a melee attack, shouldn't he grant them a bonus?Of course, if we flip that around and ask if the wand weilder gets the bonus, would it be correct ot conclude that: Even though the dagger in his hand gives the possibility of granting flanking bonuses to allies in the right spot (assuming he's a TWF or the dagger is in the correct hand) his use of the wand would not gain a flanking bonus because it is not a melee attack?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nonlethal Force, post: 3065180, member: 35788"] This is my understanding as well - adding the exception of the use of the spell Arrow Mind, of course. As to Patryn's earlier example, So long as the rogue is a TWF and has a dagger in one hand and a wand in the other, why wouldn't he be in a position of flanking an enemy in a square beside him? He obviously threatens all the sqares around him (so long as he is at least small in size and not incapacitated). Now, if he threw that dagger and didn't quickdraw a replacement I can see why he no longer is flanking, because the wand doesn't allow him to threaten. EDIT: I should add that I am using the definition for flanking from the perspective of granting a bonus to another person. So long as he threatens and another person in the right spot is making a melee attack, shouldn't he grant them a bonus? Of course, if we flip that around and ask if the wand weilder gets the bonus, would it be correct ot conclude that: Even though the dagger in his hand gives the possibility of granting flanking bonuses to allies in the right spot (assuming he's a TWF or the dagger is in the correct hand) his use of the wand would not gain a flanking bonus because it is not a melee attack? [/QUOTE]

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