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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 3065850" data-attributes="member: 23094">Heh - not just me, Caliban.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Ah - so you're arguing the 3.0 rules for flanking?The issues I see with that are:1.&nbsp; The rule that makes this explicit was deleted in 3.5.&nbsp; Presumably, it was deleted for a reason.2.&nbsp; That would make feats / character abilities like a random example from Dragon, in addition to Pack Fighting from earlier:and, from Races of the Wild:... nigh on completely useless.3.&nbsp; Similarly (and thanks for reminding me, atomcrash), if you cannot be considered flanking outside of the instant of your own (or your ally's) melee attack, then formians and Axiomatic creatures are actually immune to flanking, rather than just difficult to flank.Exactamundo - well put.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 3065850, member: 23094"] Heh - not just me, Caliban. :) Ah - so you're arguing the 3.0 rules for flanking? The issues I see with that are: 1. The rule that makes this explicit was deleted in 3.5. Presumably, it was deleted for a reason. 2. That would make feats / character abilities like a random example from Dragon, in addition to Pack Fighting from earlier: and, from Races of the Wild: ... nigh on completely useless. 3. Similarly (and thanks for reminding me, atomcrash), if you cannot be considered flanking outside of the instant of your own (or your ally's) melee attack, then formians and Axiomatic creatures are actually immune to flanking, rather than just difficult to flank. Exactamundo - well put. [/QUOTE]

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