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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 4732188" data-attributes="member: 82106">I think all the people that are suggesting that THE answer is to make adventures a clock race or a gauntlet are missing the point. Lets consider this from a standpoint of the campaign as a whole.Lets say basically it takes around 6 encounters to level up. So maybe 2 weeks per level if you play every week. You can go through a tier in around 3-5 months. Now lets further figure an adventure may carry you through anything from 1 to 4 levels, maybe a bit more, maybe a few are even shorter. Probably 3 adventures per tier seems like a good general rule of thumb. Now you can run a gauntlet one time, and a clock race another time, but probably not all of any one adventure is going to be either one, so at MOST you might make 50% of encounters part of a time constraint. Lets assume you can reuse a given ploy in some form every tier, which isn't too bad. Doing so more often then that starts to get pretty stale. So basically these kinds of suggestions don't solve the problem. On top of that they kind of limit the DMs options for plot lines as well. There still needs to be a more general fix.As for why these particular players are eating up such an abundance of HS, there are a few things to consider. First of all they might use less if they switched to different feats or MC powers. Probably won't make a HUGE difference except at really low levels, but that may help to explain it, the players are making a choice, more healing vs more offense and defense. Secondly not every group is made up of a bunch of tactical charop geniuses that are into number crunching there way to decimating every N+3 encounter with hardly a scratch. It may come as a revelation to most of the posters on this board, but the VAST majority of D&D players are not of that type, and they find even N level encounters fairly challenging. If the rules are basically structured and the adventures are basically structured such that those players have NO HOPE of playing successfully, then I submit that is a serious design flaw in the game. Frankly I think it IS a serious problem with 4e, the game is overly tactical. It is great that it CAN be that tactical, but other types of players are just as deserving of their candy too.Finally, suppose CapnZapp's crew learns to use a bunch less HS per encounter? I don't see where that suddenly solves the problem. This is an issue where the rules, if used in a certain way, allow a party to nova. 4e was supposed to put a real crimp on novas, and if it fails to do that, then that too is a design flaw.</blockquote>

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