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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 4737434" data-attributes="member: 59248">I live to serveIf you have endless triggers -and- endless tempo, sure.FWIW, I am, more or less -- significant (not actually endless) healing doesn't matter that much if a PC is killed via damage--and they can get there in one turn or nearly one turn.So why not build encounters that can kill adventurers -- even the ones you have?People have given you the tools for this -- encounters with false endings and multi-stage monster entry, monsters that keep hitting downed adventurers to try to bring them from "unconcious" to "dead" before a healing word gets them moving again, encounters with tactics that try to divide and conquer where PCs have to think their way out but with the large reserves 4e gives them making this avoid being a save-or-die or killer GM issue; minions (which if they can swarm a PC, do plenty enough damage to kill them rather than just wound them, making this a tactical challenge, not an endurance one).  Your players, by exploiting some of the more powerful feats in the game (and yes, I know that muliticlass feats are extroadinarily powerful), loading up on daily powers, and defaulting to the "5 minute day" (which lets them exploit their daily powers rather than saving them for when they'll -really- need them) are fighting above their weight class, but what this really means is that when the fight ends, they're just getting started.  Fine -- make the fight longer by adding extra monsters, but having them show up late, thus extending the threat point, but not the second by second deadliness.  This doesn't do much about the fact that they're getting to trade up in power with a 5 minute day and thus not doing any of the per-day resource management that the daily/encounter split is intended for -- but you let them get away with this (and you seem content to), you need to throw out encounters that are long enough to challenge the party, so they're making real decisions; not whether to throw healing, but -where-.And, of course, have the monsters use intelligent tactics.</blockquote>

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